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re: Can Ai write doctoral dissertations for you?

Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:11 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:11 am to
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Most phDs are the dumbest people in the room anyways so there isn’t much of a difference


Deep education, not broad, no wonder they're chronically under employed.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36419 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:11 am to
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No I’m going to write my admission essay this summer.



For what field, if you don't mind me asking?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21159 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:11 am to
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I’m having writers block


Nope, you do not, just start. Take one of your papers you wrote from your classwork that is related to your subject and use it to prime the pump. Even better is if you have two or three papers that are related to your subject, throw those in the mix and get started.

Do not make the mistake thinking your writing a final draft to start. I have 15 complete drafts of mine before it was finished. Just get started.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 11:13 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24148 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:12 am to
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I’m talking about for the subject matter. I have an idea that I’ve already done research on and I’m having writers block on how to get it started and how I want to piece it all together


Here's what my Major Professor told me about 1,000,000 years ago. Start with the methods. It's the part you know the best and will get the process started.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21159 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:15 am to
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Start with the methods.


This is good advice too. Start with a paragraph about what you want to research and how you will do it in the methods.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18688 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:19 am to
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I’m talking about for the subject matter. I have an idea that I’ve already done research on and I’m having writers block on how to get it started and how I want to piece it all together


This sounds more like you are writing a research prospectus and not a dissertation.

These days, most dissertations are a binder of individual research papers.

Therefore your research prospectus should have a list of 3-4 smaller projects. You can start with a statement of purpose introducing a problem where there is a gap in knowledge. Then you list your hypothesis and proposed experimental design. You will also want to highlight basic statistical analyses that may be used.

Once you do that, go back and write more extensive literature reviews to justify the problem statements.
Posted by OmniPundit
Florida
Member since Sep 2018
1440 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:22 am to
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Most phDs are the dumbest people in the room anyways so there isn’t much of a difference


I've agree with almost all of your comments on the board, but I have to ask if you have data to substantiate this claim?

The OmniPundit, Doctorate, Chemistry and Engineering; Alabama; 1974.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18688 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:31 am to
It’s called an inferiority complex regarding street smarts vs book smarts.

Not to mention the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2138 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:36 am to
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consider using a flesh and blood paper writer for the task


Pro tip: Most people don't know that the "graduate reader" is just a graduate student from the English Deptartment. You can hire that student to proofread your dissertation prior to submitting it.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16149 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:41 am to
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For what field, if you don't mind me asking?
history
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36419 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:50 am to
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history


There are programs that admit in the summer for that fall?

Regardless, for this, what you actually need to do is to target institutions who have faculty whose work you know and who can guide you on their specialty. I wouldn't suggest applying until you know what exactly you want to study. You will also have to become familiar with histography and approaches to source material. A Ph.D. is not a generalist field. What I mean is that you are going to be expected to focus on some topic, era of history, etc., with extreme specialization.

I know there is a guy who used to post here who was a historian. I think he was associated with the Univ. of Arizona. Maybe he will come by so you can ask him. But I've never heard of any academic program of decent repute having applications open in the summer for that fall.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55171 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 11:58 am to
Seems like a dumb way to throw away a lot of time, money, and work. Not worth the risk.



Oh, and....AI Board
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57465 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:31 pm to
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I've agree with almost all of your comments on the board, but I have to ask if you have data to substantiate this claim?

The OmniPundit, Doctorate, Chemistry and Engineering; Alabama; 1974.


I’ve been in and close to that realm - granted it wasn’t in science - was recruited for PHD work, still am on occasion, just don’t see the need for it other than having the title, and most I have seen with it got it for that exact reason
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 12:51 pm to
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After all, there’s zero way to check if AI wrote the document. No websites exist for that sort of thing. None.


This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6582 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 6:31 pm to
GPT does not think—it sees and connect patterns. It is not a reasoning machine.

GPT passes the bar and aces quantum computing tests, but fails miserably at economics. Source: GPT4 Fails Economics

If your PhD is just regurgitating information and connecting dots, then it’s a worthless PhD.

This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
4584 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 7:51 pm to
turnitin.com does
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57465 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 7:55 pm to
Why would chatGPT fail at economics? It’s basically math and logic
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17074 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 8:03 pm to
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Can Ai write doctoral dissertations for you?


Right now I doubt it because dissertations have to be on unique research topics that typically haven't been covered much before. I doubt AI is at the point where it can generate an original research topic, devise a thesis, then write a dissertation proving that thesis. Dissertations are supposed to be unique contributions to whatever field of study you are engaged in.

Don't forget, you typically have to "defend" the dissertation in front of a panel of professors. Only when they are satisfied that your research is good and you understand what you were doing will they award the PhD.

So even if AI was able to do it, you would still need to understand it thoroughly before you went in there for the oral exam.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4146 posts
Posted on 4/18/23 at 8:23 pm to
I’m sure it has a closed form solution to the Navier-Stokes on tap as well. Duhhh just ask the computo-bot Will Robinson.
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