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re: Chicago...staying around Miracle Mile. Still a good idea?

Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Harahan Boy
Harahan LA
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:02 am to
We visited Chicago a few years ago. I highly recommend seeing the German U-505 WW2 submarine exhibit in the Museum of Science and Technology. You can walk thru the submarine. Very interesting!
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Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:02 pm to
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I was there about a year ago this time and despite all the news stories of rampant crime, I never saw anything sketchy. We stayed near Miracle Mile.


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Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3557 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:44 am to
So far, from reading various threads (thanks to everyone who posted), I have this tentative plan for our one day to explore the city.

Arrive midday at Ohare, leave luggage at hotel (in Rosemont), take either blue line or Uber to downtown. Visit the Art Institute and Maggie Daley Park area, walk the river walk, take the red line to Fullerton(?) to see Lincoln Park. Afterwards, walk Fullerton up to Halsted just to see the neighborhood, take a cab (still have those?) to ZaZas pizzeria on Clark (we don’t want Chicago style pizza and have seen good reviews of ZaZas, but open to suggestion). I think that would leave us with finding one more thing to do at about 6 before we Uber back to Rosemont, so what would you hypothetically do at that time of the day with your teenage kids who have never been to Chicago? We were thinking of a tour of Wrigley but there doesn’t seem to be enough time.


See any issues with that plan or am I missing an obvious better use of the time?
Obviously I’m trying to compress a lot into too little time, but tell me if something seems way off.
Would you be worried about the safety of the blue line from Ohare to downtown in midday?
Is there a particular section of the river walk you recommend?

It’s supposed to be in low 60s with a 10 mph East wind with a rain possibly. How cold is that going to feel to South Louisiana folks?
I know we shouldn’t wear shorts, but do we need jackets/hoodies IYO?

TIA

ETA: I guess I left off walking the Mag Mile. Could take the Riverwalk to Michigan and walk north, to loop that in before going to LP.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:58 am to
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Obviously I’m trying to compress a lot into too little time, but tell me if something seems way off.

Sure, but at the same time you'll always be able to do MORE in Chicago. Just so much to do. So don't feel like you didn't get the trip right. Make the most of what yall have planned and enjoy!

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Would you be worried about the safety of the blue line from Ohare to downtown in midday?

Usually fly SW, so come from the Southside and usually anyone from the airports are all the same crowd. So def not too sketch. Should have no issue.

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Is there a particular section of the river walk you recommend?

I'll let others chime in, but the riverwalk really isn't much. We enjoyed Happy Hour at TinyTapp with some live music and relaxing right there, but its not much more than just walking and taking in some sights.

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It’s supposed to be in low 60s with a 10 mph East wind with a rain possibly. How cold is that going to feel to South Louisiana folks?
I know we shouldn’t wear shorts, but do we need jackets/hoodies IYO?

Shorts and a light jacket is perfect. Dress comfortable. If you're doing the amount of walking etc. it's good not to have all those extra layers on and you won't sweat. You'll just enjoy the temps and the sights.

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I guess I left off walking the Mag Mile.

Yeah, they have plenty of stops on Mag Mile that teens would like and enjoy + the sights obv. My 12 year old enjoyed the Nike Store (4-5 levels), and other shops on Mag Mile.

***I always add this in here but the Chicago Athletic Association is always a fun stop. Took my son there, played some pool and other games. Great architecture and great vibes. They'll enjoy. Not far from the Bean etc.



Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:17 am to
Awesome response, thank you.

So anyone can just walk in to the Athletic Association and play pool or whatever? I was thinking you had to stay there or have reservations.
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:26 am to
Yeah anyone can go.

They have a nice rooftop spot that overlooks The Bean called Cindy's there. Altogether a really cool spot/stop. I've been to Chi 3x now and every time I pop in.

Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:33 am to
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Arrive midday at Ohare, leave luggage at hotel (in Rosemont), take either blue line or Uber to downtown. Visit the Art Institute and Maggie Daley Park area, walk the river walk, take the red line to Fullerton(?) to see Lincoln Park. Afterwards, walk Fullerton up to Halsted just to see the neighborhood, take a cab (still have those?) to ZaZas pizzeria on Clark (we don’t want Chicago style pizza and have seen good reviews of ZaZas, but open to suggestion). I think that would leave us with finding one more thing to do at about 6 before we Uber back to Rosemont, so what would you hypothetically do at that time of the day with your teenage kids who have never been to Chicago? We were thinking of a tour of Wrigley but there doesn’t seem to be enough time.


Unless it's early morning (before sunrise) or late night, don't even bother with Lyft/Uber. Southbound on the Kennedy is a mess right now - big construction project just started and there are two lane closures. There is a Blue Line station at Rosemont. No idea what hotel you're at, but there are a few within a 10-minute walk.

You can take the Red Line to Fullerton, yes. Alternatively, you can take the Brown or Purple Line, too. All stop at Fullerton, basically right on DePaul's campus.

I wouldn't walk up Halsted... It's fine, and completely safe, but there's just a lot more if you walk north on Clark from Fullerton (if you choose to pop over to Lakeshore Trail or Zoo). Also, the stretch of Fullerton between Halsted and Clark is beautiful - you'll see with the trees.

Haven't been to Zazas, but another couple options in that area are Roebuck (DryHop brewpub) and Pat's Pizza (if you want a tavern-style cut).

Someone with kids might be more help on one last activity, but I'd just be prepared for traffic leaving the city. You'd hope traffic lets up by 7pm, but it's never predictable. In general, going East/West, which you need to do get to the Kennedy, isn't easy and who knows if the interstate will have more traffic.

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Would you be worried about the safety of the blue line from Ohare to downtown in midday?


No. I live along the Blue Line and, personally, have never feared for my safety. At worst, I've seen people smoke cigarettes - gross, but not common and just switch cars at the next station. Other than that, you'll see a homeless person sleeping or walking through cars asking for money. In general, Blue Line is a crowded train - not only do you get a lot of travelers coming from ORD, but it runs through some of the fastest-growing / popular neighborhoods in the city (i.e. Logan Square and Wicker Park).

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Is there a particular section of the river walk you recommend?


Would start at Clark Street bridge and walk east - there are a number of patios along that stretch, including Tiny Tapp, Chicago Brewhouse, The Northman, etc.

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ETA: I guess I left off walking the Mag Mile. Could take the Riverwalk to Michigan and walk north, to loop that in before going to LP.


If you go this route, take the Red Line at Chicago or Clark/Division (preferred station if you'd like to walk through Gold Coast - very nice neighborhood w/ high-end shopping) to Fullerton.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4333 posts
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Chicago...staying around Miracle Mile


I assume you are talking about the Magnificent Mile.

Mag Mile is fine between there and Wrigleyville. Never had any problems walking by myself at night.

South of Wacker from Mag Mile past Millenium Park, all the way down to Roosevelt is generally fine too, but it’s empty at night and it feels weird walking a street in a major city and no one is out.

Chicago isn’t as bad as it seems. Generally you will quickly be able to tell if you are in a “bad” area.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3557 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:25 pm to
Great post, thanks again.

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but I'd just be prepared for traffic leaving the city. You'd hope traffic lets up by 7pm, but it's never predictable. In general, going East/West, which you need to do get to the Kennedy, isn't easy and who knows if the interstate will have more traffic.

Are you saying you wouldn’t use the Blue Line to get back to Rosemont from Lincoln Park after dark?

Am I right in thinking that most everything north of the magnificent mile up to Wrigleyville and east of the river is pretty safe or are there areas there that you’d avoid?
Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7137 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:32 pm to
There aren't any not safe areas that you need to worry about.

You originally said you were going to take an Uber back to Rosemont. He was warning you off major traffic going east west to get to the highway. Plus major traffic on the highway due to nightmare construction.

You'd be better off taking the blue line back to Rosemont but you still need to consider the time it will take to get to a blue line stop (which is considerably west of Wrigley, Lincoln Park, etc)
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35607 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:35 pm to
The architectural boat tour is really cool. You also have to get hotdogs from a hotdog cart to say you did it.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8648 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:14 pm to
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Are you saying you wouldn’t use the Blue Line to get back to Rosemont from Lincoln Park after dark?



Not necessarily - only meant you'd need to take the bus or Lyft/Uber back to the Blue Line from Lincoln Park. At that point, I'd cut out a stop and just take ride share, personally.

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Am I right in thinking that most everything north of the magnificent mile up to Wrigleyville and east of the river is pretty safe or are there areas there that you’d avoid?


West of the river (separation is actually the Kennedy, but close enough) is fine, too. Like I mentioned in a previous post, you're talking about some of the most-popular neighborhoods in the city right now (i.e. Wicker, River West, Logan, West Loop, Ukrainian, etc.). The further you go in any direction, the sketchier it'll be, but the several neighborhoods lining the Kennedy going north are fine.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3557 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 8:43 am to
I know it’s probably annoying for people to ask questions as if your nice city were Beirut in the 80s, I’m just trying to be responsible without being needlessly worried. So thanks for giving me some peace of mind.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4333 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:34 am to
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now it’s probably annoying for people to ask questions as if your nice city were Beirut in the 80s,


Chicago has a reputation for being crazy dangerous. Is there random crime all over the city - yes. But it’s just like any other major city. The vast majority of the crime and murders are in places you will never go.



Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7137 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:44 am to
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I know it’s probably annoying for people to ask questions as if your nice city were Beirut in the 80s, I’m just trying to be responsible without being needlessly worried. So thanks for giving me some peace of mind.


Please. You’re asking appropriate questions in the appropriate place. I love that people think Chicago is a hell hole. I get to live in a world class city that I love for reasonable cost of living.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8648 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:00 am to
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The vast majority of the crime and murders are in places you will never go.


Exactly - almost no one is voluntarily going to East/West Garfield Park, Englewood, Austin, etc. Like any big city, crime happens everywhere, but what you see on the news is pocketed in neighborhoods that you'll never get close to.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8648 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:00 am to
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I get to live in a world class city that I love for reasonable cost of living.


Yup! I absolutely love Chicago - gets even better this time of year
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8648 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I know it’s probably annoying for people to ask questions as if your nice city were Beirut in the 80s, I’m just trying to be responsible without being needlessly worried. So thanks for giving me some peace of mind.


You're all good. You won't be anywhere close to what you see on the news. Enjoy your time here!
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3557 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:01 am to
Transportation report:
Used the train system extensively and mostly it was great.

There were more than a couple of instances of what appeared to be homeless people sleeping on the blue line to Ohare, but they didn’t bother anyone.
Evidently the blue line at least temporarily has a “line cut” on the weekends which means you have to use a shuttle bus for part of the way, so be prepared for that. No big deal, just not nearly as convenient as you would expect getting on the blue line to be.

The red line to Addison from downtown was the sketchiest that we rode. One dude had just messed himself and walked away right before we got on, according to one nice person who warned me he might come back (and according to the shite stains on the seat).

The subway system downtown feels dirty but it didn’t bother us. There was one really crazy dude sitting on the platform hollering at people, and that was uncomfortable.

We Uber’d a lot on Sunday, and that was obviously nicer, but where a train was convenient I still used that and would again.

Oh, I would have appreciated more police presence in general and especially on the trains. I don’t remember seeing cops at all on the trains and rarely on the platforms, which surprised me.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 6:12 am
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3852 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:07 am to
I was there the other day and lived there once. It's not like there are people waiting on the corner to kill you. Use your head, observe common sense, come in after dark or take taxis, don't be aimlessly wandering after umpteen beers, etc...

Also if you do see a mass of kids heading your way (or just in the general vicinity), head inside a store or building. Preferrably a large one where you can fade into the background instead of being a target. That said I've never seen such.
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