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re: A reminder that zipper merging is how your supposed to handle merging

Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:34 am to
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:34 am to
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But still behind me because I never let you over, so I don’t care


The reason zipper merging does not work is because some adults never mature beyond middle school.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27174 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:34 am to
Zipper merge is a nice concept, but it doesn't take into account the general shittiness of humans.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:35 am to
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The only reason there’s a mile long line is zipper assholes making a choke point.

That’s the truth.

This.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:35 am to
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I’ve come to terms that in theory this works better but so few practice it, it’s pointless.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29742 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:37 am to
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Post your face when you realize what you described is just moving the merge (conflict point) to the "lane closed 1 mile ahead" sign instead of the barricade
No dumbass, you have a mile or more to merge if the signs are earlier.

Not merging 100 fricking feet before the lane closure like you zipper fricking heads.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 10:03 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:40 am to
A lot of people are saying zipper merging works in theory, but fails in practice because people are unaware of the zipper merge technique and most who stay in a closing lane are just assholes who are trying to go faster.

What they don't realize is their argument should be applied to non-zipper merging. The fact that there are people on the road who will use the closing lane to go quicker means zipper merging will be more efficient. If everyone was selfless and moved over when at the earliest point, non-zipper merging may work efficiently, but the fact that some will use the closing lane to speed up means this technique will cause traffic delays.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:43 am to
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3+ pages because someone will inevitably come in and brag about how they don't let people in who "try to jump the line" by zipper merging

I’ll be damned if I let any fricker over on I-10 before the tunnel in Mobile

The only zippers I support are the ones on my Yeti soft pack
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30225 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:44 am to
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We approach the right lane closure, I am in the left, and have been for some time and I’m supposed to just let the people over who purposefully ignored the sign


Yes.

It's not ignoring the signs, it's better for the flow of traffic to merge towards the end of the merge lane than merging early.

What DOES cause traffic is people intentionally not letting mergers actually merge.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12125 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:47 am to
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I’ve come to terms that in theory this works better but so few practice it, it’s pointless.

It works better in theory. In practice, waiting until the last minute to merge means that some apprehensive driver will slow down too much, or miss their spot, or will somehow frick it up which will inevitably cause significant traffic problems.

I don’t think the OP diagrams apply to high flow traffic. Everyday we have people who get in wrecks in traffic because they can’t drive in a straight line, asking them to merge at highway speeds at the last second of the merge is insane.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29742 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:49 am to
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I’ve come to terms that in theory this works better but so few practice it, it’s pointless.
Typical zipperhead thinking and practice:

Sees road sign, “Right Lane Closed 2 Miles Ahead. Merge Left.” Zipperhead thinks, “Oh, I’ll just hang out here in the right lane until the lane closure and the people in the left lane will slow down to let me in.”

Normal, rational person, same scenario: “”Oh I’ve got 2 miles to get in the left lane. After this car in the left lane passes me, I’m gonna merge into the left lane and maintain the speed of traffic.”
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:51 am to
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If everyone was selfless
Then Socialism would work, just like zipper merging.

It doesn’t fricking work people.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29742 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:54 am to
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Everyday we have people who get in wrecks in traffic because they can’t drive in a straight line, asking them to merge at highway speeds at the last second of the merge is insane.
fricking this.

This stupid zipper merge might work with trained professional drivers, but with the retards on our highways, no fricking chance.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 9:55 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:55 am to
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I do and so many in this thread it seems


Not to be a dick, but you can't possibly imagine this place is the "average" driver, or person...anywhere, right? You been around the general population?

Next time this occurs, look around and see if you think any of the people around you are considering the pros and cons of zipper merging and not what I just described.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4336 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:55 am to
Zipper merging is the Communism of traffic flow. Sure in theory it gets the most people furthest down the road as fast as possible, but human nature gets in the way when you try to implement it.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29742 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:56 am to
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It's not ignoring the signs, it's better for the flow of traffic to merge towards the end of the merge lane than merging early.
No it doesn’t you idiot. If it did, we wouldn’t be having this argument.

The fricking people who wait until the last minute to merge are always the assholes causing traffic to slow to a crawl.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4136 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:00 am to
But the low-functioning out there think you’re trying to “one-up” by cuttttin’.

Because really smart wealthy people sit in endless traffic.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18358 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:00 am to
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No it doesn’t you idiot. If it did, we wouldn’t be having this argument.

The fricking people who wait until the last minute to merge are always the assholes causing traffic to slow to a craw


Every bit of real world study disagrees with you. You're arguing based on hurt feelings because you feel like someone's jumping the line.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26774 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:01 am to
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People who prematurely line up in the open lane are the same people who drive with hazards on in the rain.


Goodwood westbound at Airline in BR is a great example of this.

Both lanes of Goodwood cross over Airline, and merge into a single lane (the left lane) on the other side.

However, instead of people using both lanes to get more traffic through the light, the line in the left lane will back up past St. Lukes to Tara, while literally no one is in the right lane.

You should see the looks and honks I get for simply using the right lane to cross over Airline, and then merging in after the intersection. Lots of dumb women will sit through several light cycles instead of just using the infrastructure properly.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 10:04 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29742 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:09 am to
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Every bit of real world study disagrees with you. You're arguing based on hurt feelings because you feel like someone's jumping the line.
No I’m not. The fact of the matter is that people that drive in the closure lane until the end almost always cause the vehicle in the open lane to slow down to let them merge, causing the people behind them to brake also, causing a traffic jam.

I don’t care how many “real world studies” they do, it doesn’t work.

I guarantee I could do a real world study on merging early and it would work better than zipper.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45293 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:11 am to
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Then Socialism would work, just like zipper merging.



You're getting the analogy wrong. Non-zipper merging is Socialism.
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