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Thought on back pain treatment.

Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27036 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:14 pm
Thoughts on Regenerative Therapy?

Houston has a million ads for a "QC Kinetics". The ads and the target audience make me think it is nonsense. However, some of their therapies are plasma type injections that I feel do have some merit. Tiger Woods was the first I ever heard using it with his doc in Florida. Of course he was probably using steroids as well. Anyway, my back pain is constant and nagging. Got to the point that I had an MRI. Degenerative changes and stenosis and narrowing etc.

Bottom line I just wondered if any of you had first or second hand experience with it. Is it snake oil or is it a new avenue of treatment?
Posted by h0ll@yaboy
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
136 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:39 pm to
Your MRI doesn’t explain your pain. It just gives you an idea of your back looks like. As we age the chance of degenerative changes increases and is totally normal.

Answer this: prior to symptom onset were you meeting the minimum ACSM guidelines for exercise? Are you overweight? Did you regularly participate in resistance training?

There is so much that goes into a back injury, but also 70-90% of cases of non-mechanical back injuries, resolve themselves without the need for excessive movement imaging, injections, and surgeries
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9841 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:46 pm to
May sound strange but my Tempurpedic mattress resolved decades of back pain.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34128 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:48 pm to
Have you tried yoga?
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50250 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:50 pm to
Pilates
Posted by PappaSwolio
tGeneral’s Army
Member since Sep 2022
901 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:52 pm to
Anything but Opioids
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3415 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:55 pm to
Baclofen.

While the extent of my spasms are way less than they used to be (I went from wanting to die to just being inconvenienced), the frequency has ramped up a lot. According to “the best doc in town” I’m just going to have spasms for my whole life and nothing can be done.

Yoga helps. Physical therapy helps. Muscle relaxers help. All that said, I spend almost an hour a day stretching. I’d kill for some stem cells shot directly into my spine.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:59 pm to
You need to hit the gym and strengthen your core
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3761 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:01 pm to
Your best bets are exercise more and weigh less. Docs can’t do much about back pain.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5607 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:19 pm to
Back pain has ruined my life.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
2677 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:37 pm to
I've been having back pain nag me for a while. I started paying attention to posture and how I lay when I sleep. It's made a big difference, especially focusing on how I sleep. I've always been a terrible sleeper, turns out it seems like it was largely from sleeping with my body in bad alignment. It's made a difference in how I feel, though I'm not 100% yet. It's helped me get to a place where I can more easily do things like exercise to help things out even more.

eta: I've also focused on greatly decreasing the amount of time I spend sitting each day, that's helped too.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 8:40 pm
Posted by HermanBoone
The Chuck
Member since Aug 2013
883 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:38 pm to
Go see a PT before you elect to get injected with potential snake oil. Degenerative changes at your age are normal and something a PT has seen a million times.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3712 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:41 pm to
About three yrs ago I slipped off a water tank onto rock hard frozen ground and landed with all my weight on one foot.

As soon as I got up my butt went instantly numb. I KNEW I was screwed up. Long story short I ended up with a broken back and fusion (hardware) surgery on my L5 and S1.

My surgeon mentioned most of his surgeries are traumatic events like mine. He said 90% of back cases heal on their own.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6562 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:04 pm to
Since you're in Katy, I suggest going to Reese Chiropractic. It's more of massage for athletes and injury recovery than it is what most people consider Chiro. There's kind of a blend of about to be divorced women that work out a ton, and a bunch of people with joint and back pain that clearly don't work out at all.

She suggested a Zinus mattress, and a new pillow, and it solved nagging issues. Tell her and whomever is doing the rehab work on you what hurts, where, and they'll go digging for the root cause. And oh, do her people dig.
Posted by SJB901Tiger
901
Member since May 2019
68 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:09 pm to
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Posted by Tigressa del Norte
Seattle
Member since Jan 2009
3073 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:39 pm to
Had a sudden case of sciatica shooting down and cramping my left leg after a night of PS4 Mortal Kombat while sitting on a hard office chair. Freaked me out as I had no idea what was wrong. MRI showed L3-L4 are screwed up. Went to PT and lucked out with a very knowledgeable older man who told me about the (Robin) McKenzie method or extension stretch exercise, similar to a Yoga pose. You can find his books on Amazon which cover the back, neck, and hips.

There's a video of it further down on this link. It's amazing how effective it is. You can't over-arch your back according to the PT/book. I was initially told to do it every 2 hours per day. Over the last couple years, when I've skipped and muscle cramping/sciatica creep back, it can be reversed if you get back into the exercise. The PT also emphasized you have to maintain good posture or it'll interfere with the exercise progress. It's a very good means to avoid surgery for some back injuries. Best of luck!


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Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53268 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:42 pm to
It sounds like you have fibromyalgia baw. Let me text my cousin and see if he can refer you to a pain management specialist
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
20022 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:53 pm to
I had a physical job and my back was hurting a good deal as well as my right hip and leg. When I retired I took it easy for a couple of weeks and it eased up until I push mowed the lawn. My right hip lit up the next day and I was at square one again.

I went to the hip doctor and my hip was bone on bone and I wound up with a hip replacement. I figured that was what was causing my back problems. But during my recovery and walking my left hip started wearing me out with pain.

Come to find out I had a herniated disc in my back pressing on the sciatic nerve going down that side. I’ve always said I’d never let anyone cut on my spine, but I reached the point to where I had no choice. I slept in a chair, not recliner, just so I could get up to pee in the night or get up at all.

I had surgery to repair it and the pain is gone now and after several months of not sleeping in a bed it was great to lay down and sleep.


I’m sorry for your pain and hope you find the solution. Look for second and third opinions if necessary. The only way to understand this is to live it.

I had heard about regenerative therapy but I was past that.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19739 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:57 pm to
Deadlifts relieved back pain.


Deadlifts and rigorous cupping/scraping massage sessions
Posted by CutTheCord
Texas
Member since Aug 2022
741 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:31 am to
I have an issue with T4 and T5 in my back. Degenerative issues.

Acupuncture helped. It was so bad and nothing else was working. All they would do is offer more pain pills.

It took three treatments and my back and neck were pain free. It lasted about six or so months until I had to go back again.

That's all I got. I hope you get some help.
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