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re: Which sport gives the least amount of control of the outcome to officials?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:12 pm to double d
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:12 pm to double d
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Golf,……you rely on line judges a lot
Not near as much as other sports. You can go whole rounds without talking to a rules official in a golf tournament
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:13 pm to double d
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tennis you rely on line judges a lot.
Nah. Judges in tennis are there for show, literally. Players challenge spots all the time during a match, and that has been automated for a long time now. They keep "control" of the match by announcing the scores now and make obvious calls. Close ones get reviewed and that is done quickly.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:15 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
At the big tournaments they aren’t even reviewed. Every line call is made by an instant read by a computer. The official simply shouts “out” when the computer signals it
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:17 pm to lsupride87
Golf, tennis, bowling all good ones
Most track and field stuff
Most track and field stuff
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:17 pm to double d
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tennis you rely on line judges a lot.
Basically the only thing being officiated by a human in tennis anymore are foot faults
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:17 pm to Ssubba
Track & Field
The stopwatch and tape measure don't lie.
The stopwatch and tape measure don't lie.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:18 pm to ragincajun03
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The stopwatch and tape measure don't lie.
There are judgement calls on blocking etc in distance events that can be highly subjective and controversial but generally a good one
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:19 pm to Pedro
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95% of plays rely on a person determining where a small sphere thrown at 90+ mph crossed a 17 square inch pentagon.
so not that one
If an umpire has a huge strike zone and is giving the hitter no breaks, the hitter has the option to swing at balls just outside the strike zone. You really can't not engage on the line of scrimmage
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:21 pm to Ssubba
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Which sport gives the least amount of control of the outcome to officials?
golf, tennis, track & field, swimming, down hill skiing. really any timed racing event or any event measuring something (distance, weight, etc.) in any sport has very little official involvement
Team sports, hard to say. I'd say soccer probably has less than any of the other major team sports comparatively
Golf is probably the most unique in that officials aren't even there unless their assistance is requested and/or a complaint is made and they're reviewing something retroactively. Only sport I can think of where the players penalize themselves and the players self-police for the most part.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:22 pm to theGarnetWay
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There’s that. There’s also the Out/Safe calls which can change everything and no other sport allows refs to just toss out players or coaches for yelling at them for making a bad call. At worse, there are penalties for it in other sports, but just tossing an HC or a starter for getting mad? That gives umps more power than you’d see elsewhere.
Are we arguing that the out/safe call is intentional or unintentional in changing the outcome or just the amount of control the umpire has in theory? If a guy rakes at the plate, it doesn't give the opportunity for the umpire to make the bad call.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:33 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Angel Hernandez videos on YouTube. Go watch what one notably bad umpire can do to games with just one call.
While I totally agree that Angel Hernandez might be the single worst game official/ref/ump in sports history, and has affected the outcome of countless games, he is also borderline retarded meaning he could not grasp the concept of a coordinated thought process needed to willfully cheat.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:44 pm to ragincajun03
quote:there are certain instances where judgement calls need to be made (impeding in distance events, false starts, fouls on long/triple jumps and throws, etc.) but usually issues with that are few and far between.
Track & Field
The stopwatch and tape measure don't lie.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:51 pm to theGarnetWay
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What? Umps have to make at least one call literally every play.
obviously it's not baseball season yet
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:52 pm to justaniceguy
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baseball
Eric Greg would beg to differ.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:15 pm to theGarnetWay
Of the major team sports, baseball game outcomes are the least that are decided subjectively, IMO
Instant replay has helped tremendously on the bases, and the electronic strike zone will do the same for the plate
And baseball has also handled off the field bullshite better than the other sports.
It is the last remaining team sport that I have remained intellectually invested in at the professional level.
Instant replay has helped tremendously on the bases, and the electronic strike zone will do the same for the plate
And baseball has also handled off the field bullshite better than the other sports.
It is the last remaining team sport that I have remained intellectually invested in at the professional level.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:20 pm to theGarnetWay
It’s still far better than basketball or football. Golf and tennis are sports sure but it’s hard to compare them to basketball and football
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:30 pm to justaniceguy
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Tennis, baseball, golf
Baseball fans, smh
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