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Am I the only one that thinks the NFL handled the injury nearly flawlessly last night?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:48 pm
Trainers were on the field within 90 seconds of the tackle giving Hamlin CPR. If this was delayed even another minute or two he could be brain dead. Turns out they revived his heart beat on the field, loaded him into an ambulance immediately, and he was at UC medical center in under 10 minutes with a police escort.
That was honestly the most quick, efficient, and its looking like now successful logistical outcome the NFL could have hoped for. Other leagues should look to this as an example of what to do.
The NFL officially announced the cancellation of the game roughly 50 minutes after the injury - which is, by the way, not only incredibly unprecedented for them to do but also very quick given the circumstances, but also the right thing to do. They likely made the decision to do this after initially pausing the game when teams were sent to the locker rooms. Sorry the NFL didn't reach their typewriters fast enough to draft a postponement letter to the media, they had more important things to worry about, like making sure their player who could die makes it to the hospital as quickly and as safely as possible. People on twitter are just trying to one up each other on who can be the most outraged at the NFL. The funny part is the 90% of the blue checkmarks outraged at the NFL are atheists who won't even pray for the guy lmao. The only thing they worship is social media attention and making sure everyone knows how nice of a person they are. They are always looking for someone to blame. It's looking like this was some freak accident that is no one's fault. Christ, have some humility and composure. Good Lord.
Edit: The '5 minutes to warm up' thing is also a confirmed lie. The NFL never forced players to warm up. There is protocol to allow players 5 minutes to warm up if a game is delayed due to weather or injury for more than 20 minutes. But the NFL nixed that very quickly.
That was honestly the most quick, efficient, and its looking like now successful logistical outcome the NFL could have hoped for. Other leagues should look to this as an example of what to do.
The NFL officially announced the cancellation of the game roughly 50 minutes after the injury - which is, by the way, not only incredibly unprecedented for them to do but also very quick given the circumstances, but also the right thing to do. They likely made the decision to do this after initially pausing the game when teams were sent to the locker rooms. Sorry the NFL didn't reach their typewriters fast enough to draft a postponement letter to the media, they had more important things to worry about, like making sure their player who could die makes it to the hospital as quickly and as safely as possible. People on twitter are just trying to one up each other on who can be the most outraged at the NFL. The funny part is the 90% of the blue checkmarks outraged at the NFL are atheists who won't even pray for the guy lmao. The only thing they worship is social media attention and making sure everyone knows how nice of a person they are. They are always looking for someone to blame. It's looking like this was some freak accident that is no one's fault. Christ, have some humility and composure. Good Lord.
Edit: The '5 minutes to warm up' thing is also a confirmed lie. The NFL never forced players to warm up. There is protocol to allow players 5 minutes to warm up if a game is delayed due to weather or injury for more than 20 minutes. But the NFL nixed that very quickly.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:52 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
But you won't get internet clout by feigning outrage and distress.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:52 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
They did. And I wish Twitter never existed. 99% of people on there don’t deserve a platform.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:52 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Yeah man I think it was fine. Even the commentators and studio people had no idea what to do. Discussing a tragedy isn’t really their job description.
Honestly the part that seemed the most off to me was the long running SVP and Clark emotional dialogue where SVP kept wanting to go in on the nfl potentially playing the game without really knowing what they actually wanted to do.
Honestly the part that seemed the most off to me was the long running SVP and Clark emotional dialogue where SVP kept wanting to go in on the nfl potentially playing the game without really knowing what they actually wanted to do.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:53 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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loaded him into an ambulance immediately
agree with everything you said except this part
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:54 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
I'm not here to defend the NFL, but you're probably pretty spot on here. You see this every time there's a shocking situation, people spouting off from their couches on what should be done and how it isn't happening fast enough with no real concept of the logistics and legwork it takes behind the scenes to get things done.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:55 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Also, the NFL said it never issued that "take a 5 minute break before resuming play" direction, so I'm not sure where that came from.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:55 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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Trainers were on the field within 90 seconds of the tackle giving Hamlin CPR. If this was delayed even another minute or two he could be brain dead. Turns out they revived his heart beat on the field, loaded him into an ambulance immediately, and he was at UC medical center in under 10 minutes with a police escort.
That was honestly the most quick, efficient, and its looking like now successful logistical outcome the NFL could have hoped for. Other leagues should look to this as an example of what to do.
They deserve tremendous credit for this.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:55 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Doesn't UC have excellent medical care?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:55 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
What made no sense was everybody jumping to conclusions on what the NFL was wanting to make the players do in an unprecedented situation that they had never been in before.
Didn't think it was flawless but just a case of not knowing what to do. I would be willing to bet they have a set plan in place going forward, God forbid something like that ever happens again.
Didn't think it was flawless but just a case of not knowing what to do. I would be willing to bet they have a set plan in place going forward, God forbid something like that ever happens again.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:55 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
The decision to cancel the game or not was superfluous. All that mattered was getting Hamlin immediate care and off to the hospital. That all happened flawlessly from what we could tell.
The outrage over “they didn’t cancel the game fast enough” is insane. It got canceled in basically an hour with the commissioner not even there. Information had to be assessed and relayed through two teams plus the NFL and the NFLPA. It’s not like goodell was going to unilaterally snap his fingers and say game off the second the ambulance drove away. There’s a mountain of logistics to think about.
The great irony in all this will be if ESPN somehow tries to come after the NFL contract wise for not playing a major football game even though their on air talent was screaming to cancel the game. ESPN pays over a billion to broadcast like 17 total games. Each one matters more to them as far as the price per game than any other network I believe.
The outrage over “they didn’t cancel the game fast enough” is insane. It got canceled in basically an hour with the commissioner not even there. Information had to be assessed and relayed through two teams plus the NFL and the NFLPA. It’s not like goodell was going to unilaterally snap his fingers and say game off the second the ambulance drove away. There’s a mountain of logistics to think about.
The great irony in all this will be if ESPN somehow tries to come after the NFL contract wise for not playing a major football game even though their on air talent was screaming to cancel the game. ESPN pays over a billion to broadcast like 17 total games. Each one matters more to them as far as the price per game than any other network I believe.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:56 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
The only snafu was the NFL originally telling the teams they had 5 minutes to get it together and start playing again. Other than that, hard to argue with the way it was handled
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:57 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Can you do my taxes?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:06 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
They did a great job. Everyone is just so mentally weak these days, they can not handle anything without there being some kind of major breakdown.
Mental midgets.
Mental midgets.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:10 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
I don't watch the NFL. I started seeing posts about the ordeal on Facebook and switched over to see what was happening.
I then came here, and people on this board were calling for the commissioner to be fired over his handling of the situation.
I suspect they also call for coaches to be fired mid-game.
I then came here, and people on this board were calling for the commissioner to be fired over his handling of the situation.
I suspect they also call for coaches to be fired mid-game.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:17 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
I agree. This was, unfortunately, a situation that hasn't been seen in the NFL in decades...maybe ever. There really isn't a "playbook" for how to properly handle. Of course, we, unfortunately, live in a world where vapid virtue signaling is pervasive and everyone with a "voice" is fighting to out-outrage one another and prove they are the most virtuous.
It's not uncommon to see serious injuries (often neck injuries) occur where the game comes to a grinding halt while medical personnel rush to the scene and take every precaution to care for a player before, in many instances, carting him off the field. In just about everyone of those instances it is expected the game will resume thereafter.
This was obviously different. No one fully knew the gravity of the situation immediately besides (thankfully) the medical personnel. After Hamlin was loaded into the ambulance everyone was kind of dealing with the unknown. Was he going to be ok? Did he give a "thumbs up" like you have with many guys being carted off the field following a neck injury? What should we do? Those neck injuries are always scary and sobering to the players...but we've always resumed play right after. Is this situation different? No one was quite sure as to what was the "right call". Obviously, it became clear pretty quickly Buffalo's players/coaches were not in the mindset necessary to move forward and the game was postponed. Just because the general public didn't find out that information until much later doesn't mean that discussion with league officials wasn't happening much earlier.
I think everyone did about the best they could given the circumstances. No one forced the players to hurry back on the field. Both coaches recognized the mindset of their teams and made the decision quickly to get them off the field and out of the eyes of the fans and TV. I think everyone was waiting to see if there was going to be word from medical personnel indicating the situation wasn't as critical as initially presented and that the player was going to be ok. Once it became clear the medical personnel could not give that answer in a timely manner everyone involved felt it was best to postpone the game and the decision was made.
In 1996 umpire John McSherry collapsed on the field in Cincinnati at the home opener. Medical personnel rushed to the field. The umpires and players were clearly shaken. Eventually, McSherry was loaded into an ambulance and taken to a hospital where it was confirmed what everyone on the field already knew, he died on the field. There was confusion as to what to do going forward and it was OVER AN HOUR after he collapsed that the game was officially postponed. Social media didn't exist at that time, nor did the virtue signaling Olympics. Yet, I don't recall MLB being crucified (other than by Marge Schott) for taking over an hour to cancel the game.
It's not uncommon to see serious injuries (often neck injuries) occur where the game comes to a grinding halt while medical personnel rush to the scene and take every precaution to care for a player before, in many instances, carting him off the field. In just about everyone of those instances it is expected the game will resume thereafter.
This was obviously different. No one fully knew the gravity of the situation immediately besides (thankfully) the medical personnel. After Hamlin was loaded into the ambulance everyone was kind of dealing with the unknown. Was he going to be ok? Did he give a "thumbs up" like you have with many guys being carted off the field following a neck injury? What should we do? Those neck injuries are always scary and sobering to the players...but we've always resumed play right after. Is this situation different? No one was quite sure as to what was the "right call". Obviously, it became clear pretty quickly Buffalo's players/coaches were not in the mindset necessary to move forward and the game was postponed. Just because the general public didn't find out that information until much later doesn't mean that discussion with league officials wasn't happening much earlier.
I think everyone did about the best they could given the circumstances. No one forced the players to hurry back on the field. Both coaches recognized the mindset of their teams and made the decision quickly to get them off the field and out of the eyes of the fans and TV. I think everyone was waiting to see if there was going to be word from medical personnel indicating the situation wasn't as critical as initially presented and that the player was going to be ok. Once it became clear the medical personnel could not give that answer in a timely manner everyone involved felt it was best to postpone the game and the decision was made.
In 1996 umpire John McSherry collapsed on the field in Cincinnati at the home opener. Medical personnel rushed to the field. The umpires and players were clearly shaken. Eventually, McSherry was loaded into an ambulance and taken to a hospital where it was confirmed what everyone on the field already knew, he died on the field. There was confusion as to what to do going forward and it was OVER AN HOUR after he collapsed that the game was officially postponed. Social media didn't exist at that time, nor did the virtue signaling Olympics. Yet, I don't recall MLB being crucified (other than by Marge Schott) for taking over an hour to cancel the game.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:20 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Joe burrow picked up a ball and made a few throws. Diggs started rallying the troops which we saw but also Lisa Saunders reported the same thing about Diggs.
Nfl trying to cover their tracks now so they don’t cross the woke crowd.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:21 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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The '5 minutes to warm up' thing is also a confirmed lie.
i disagree. troy vincent carefully wording statements to cover their arse.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:35 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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People on twitter are just trying to one up each other on who can be the most outraged at the NFL.
I’ve avoided twitter for today for this reason alone. Place is insufferable.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:43 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
My only problem with the NFL was the 5 minute warm up thing. The fact he's even got a fighting chance is because of great planning.
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