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I don’t think the 2-pt try was JUST “cajones.”

Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:03 am
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3424 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:03 am
I think it was a calculated decision, which I like much better, and think it bodes well for this team moving forward.

Listening to Coach’s response at the press conference when the guy asked about “cajones,” I was impressed with how much thought went into the decision, and quickly.

EDITED to clarify: I should've said "JUST cojones." Of course it took guts. My point was that it wasn't only guts, but it was a calculated decision.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 10:57 am
Posted by Rob from Lafourche
Lafourche Parish
Member since Oct 2021
422 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:04 am to
No matter what his reasoning was, the call was ballsy as hell. Call it whatever you want
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85044 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:06 am to
quote:

I don’t think the 2-pt try was “cajones.”

Then you’re an idiot. It was HUGE cajones.

The safe call was kick EP and play 2nd OT. Coach never needs to explain that to a rabid fan base. But miss 2 point conversion? You will be 2nd guessed for eternity.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66198 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:07 am to
It was the right decision regardless of outcome.

We would have had to go right back out on offense and if we have to kick a FG then a TD beats us. If we score a TD again then they then have 4 downs and the refs frickery to answer. Then it goes to a 3rd OT and both teams have to start going for 2. I rather go for the win right there than have to play through all of that.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33071 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:08 am to
It was a good time to do it

We were about to take the ball first for the second OT which puts you at a slight disadvantage
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25082 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:11 am to
I definitely think going for two was a necessity. Do not give the refs another opportunity to put their own stink on the end and gift it to them like we've seen happen so many times before.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7988 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:15 am to
It took balls to call it, but the probability was better going for two than kicking a pat.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:17 am to
yea considering everyone has to go for 2 on the next series t wasn't as ballsy as the media is portraying

it would have been more ballsy to not go for 2 truth be told
Posted by Tigaux6661
Member since Aug 2022
388 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:22 am to
I agree...it was calculated while sitting on two big cajones. I think he made the deceision when he kneeled with 21 seconds and 2 timeouts. It was the point at which Saban was outmanuvered...hell a timeout was not long enough to count their own players on the field...Legendary!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89615 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:29 am to
Coach had it right. 1 play to win or lose against Bama, you take that 100 times out of 100, especially a 2-point try.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4128 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:42 am to
I saw it as Kelly realizing he was playing against the officials. To continue trying to score back and forth with Bama opened you up to special calls in favor of Bama for the win. Best to try and cut the head off immediately and let the cards fall where they may.

Now the game is no longer in Birmingham's hands.

I also think he had confidence in his team.

Oh and BTW, The SEC can eat a bag of Richards.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 8:45 am
Posted by AlGoldenDomer
Member since Dec 2021
58 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:55 am to
It was actually insane.

Had it failed, every last one of you would be calling for Kelly's head today.

But congrats, Coach Kelly. Great home overtime win over a decent Bama team.

Your successor just had a bigger win, in his 10th game as a head coach, than you've had in your entire career. Yes, your Irish defeated #3 Clemson (in overtime) 2 years ago, but if memory serves, Trevor Lawrence was out that game along with 3 defensive starters, and when you played them again 6 weeks later, Clemson squished you like a bug, 34-10.

Oh, and you're still a douchenozzle.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:56 am to
It's a call most people don't make at home
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 8:58 am to
It was 100% the right call. All the XP does is provide fleeting comfort of keeping the game going, but it then opens up even more decisions and chances to deal with. The 2 point play for the win is as controlled an environment as you can get to win a game.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59130 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:08 am to
I think most people don’t realize the change to OT rules. If we kick the PAT and tie the game, the next possession you have to go for 2. If it’s still tied after that it’s nothing but going for 2. Going 2nd in the first OT means we go first in the 2nd. Going second is a HUGE advantage. I’d expect going for 2 in that situation should be the play for most teams especially if you’re the underdog
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:10 am to
the 2nd OT was going to be only 2-point plays, so going for 2 in the 1st OT wasn't as crazy as some think it was.

But it was a strong move, and I was happy Kelly went for it, whether we made it or not.
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2218 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:14 am to
quote:

“cajones,”


It's cojones, baw. Spanish slang term for 'big balls'.
Actually 'cajones' means "big boxes" in Spanish.
Posted by TDTiger225
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2019
1416 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Listening to Coach’s response at the press conference when the guy asked about “cajones,” I was impressed with how much thought went into the decision, and quickly.
They already knew what they were planning to do if that scenario arose before the game started. It makes sense now that you think about it. You get the ball second in the first OT and the other team scores the TD, you go for 2 the first time while you are in the driver's seat rather than give the other team the advantage in the 2nd OT.

What was even better is that they planned and executed it as well as they could to catch Bama as off guard as possible. They even made sure to allow their 12th man off the field rather than take the penalty and allow Bama the time to regroup and change personnel.

I'm still not sure why don't try to win with a field goal the way TN did. We had 20 seconds, 2 time outs, and we were getting chunk plays at times in this game. I'm sure he had his reasons for that as well. Did anyone hear his explanation for that?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65079 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I don’t think the 2-pt try was “cajones.”


It was just the smart and correct decision. It didn't need balls to make, just a smart coach cognizant of the situation.

If we don't go for 2, the best case scenario is we score TD in OT 2, stop Alabama, and win the game. OR we both score TDs, Alabama fails on their 2 point play and we convert ours. Based on how the 4th quarter played out, that wasn't the most likely of outcomes to stop them from the 25 and score a TD ourselves.

Worst case scenario is we both score TDs in OT #2 and go to a 2 point conversion contest where it's a coin flip just like our 2 point conversion was to win the game.

With the new OT rules, rules I think are dumb to get that out of the way, I think it should be a no-brainer (especially when playing a team like Alabama) to go for 2 if you have the ball second in OT #1.

I don't have the benefit of having all the numbers in front of me like the staff, but I am willing to bet the percentages were in our favor of converting there rather than winning in a second OT or a subsequent 2 point contest.

I think in any OT situation like that, if you have the chance to win the game from the 2 yard line you take it every single time. I would also say the same thing had we been in that same situation at the end of regulation. We should have gone for 2 to beat Florida St as well, and I said that the minute we scored to put us down 1 as time expired. I think Kelly learned a lot by how that FSU game ended.

All that to say, I completely agree. It didn't take balls, but rather it took a smart coach completely aware of the situation, and that's something we haven't had in a long time. Sure, Les, early in his career at least, made his mark being the "riverboat gambler" with his fake FGs and trick plays that worked at a remarkable clip, but that's not what Kelly's call Saturday night was. That is just a smart coach, and I'm so thankful we were able to hire him.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:18 am to
i was screaming for it when JD scored. you play to win, that's what playing to win looks like. Absolute right call.
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