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Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:55 am to weagle99
Capitalism is based on human nature. It was invented 10 million years ago when Ugg the caveman told his neighbor Grogg: 'I'll give you this halibut I just caught for one of those geese.'
Socialism/Communism is based on envy. It's wrong for some people to have more stuff than other people. It's one of the 7 deadly sins.
Socialism/Communism is based on envy. It's wrong for some people to have more stuff than other people. It's one of the 7 deadly sins.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:56 am to oogabooga68
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Western Civilization decided to play God and not let Darwinism do its job.
This
Plus…We tried the other way at Plymouth Rock. It doesn’t work.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:56 am to weagle99
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As I get older I start to wonder if Capitalism is really the best approach
Or maybe it isn’t compatible with our modern culture?
Look how China is shielded from any blame for anything it is doing? Because US interests and profits.
Look at how many tub of lard Americans are waddling around? Because we have to maximize profits by selling garbage food with corn syrup, etc.
Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon
Meanwhile almost all information about products and economic issues seems to be clouded in a fog of deceit and half truths to keep us all in the dark. It is like most everything in our society is a lie in order to maximize profit.
I don’t support Socialism nor Communism. Just taking a step back to evaluate my beliefs.
None of this is because of capitalism.
It because of slimy politicians who have sold our country to China and what they don't physically own, they manipulate and control because they own the politicians in Washington.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:57 am to weagle99
All capitalism has accomplished is lifting billions of people from abject poverty to a better standard of living than royalty and (equivalent to today's billionaires) ultra rich enjoyed just a hundred or so years ago.
Communism can only go down from here. 100% serious.
Communism can only go down from here. 100% serious.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:58 am to weagle99
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Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon
This is my favorite part of your post because you draw parallels to China.
Go look up the Chinese ghost cities. That's far more offensive to urban planners than anything America does. At least our urban sprawl serves a functional purpose.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:59 am to weagle99
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
You can't have a society where those with the most money rule everything. You MUST have a State, representing the people as a whole, to act as a regulator of the power of the wealthy.
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
You can't have a society where those with the most money rule everything. You MUST have a State, representing the people as a whole, to act as a regulator of the power of the wealthy.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:00 pm to m2pro
Crony capitalism is almost as bad as communism and that is what we have right now with the corruption and criminals in D.C., CONgress, Corporate and at every level of government.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:00 pm to weagle99
What you really need to think about is the extent to which democracy makes sense.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:00 pm to weagle99
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I can agree with this.
So then the question becomes: In the real world, in American society, can it ever be used correctly?
Not now that we are a post-Christian society. It only works somewhat fairly if Christian concepts are inculcated in the majority of the population.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:01 pm to weagle99
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As I get older I start to wonder if Capitalism is really the best approach
You seem to have an issue with corporatism, not the free market.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:01 pm to weagle99
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Look how China is shielded from any blame for anything it is doing? Because US interests and profits.
or too many pussies in politics to call them out. but did trump not call them out?? give him credit where it is due
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Look at how many tub of lard Americans are waddling around? Because we have to maximize profits by selling garbage food with corn syrup, etc.
thats a personal choice and has nothing to do with corn syrup, has to do with consuming more overall but mainly due to sedetary lifestyle im the us.
bottomline is it wouldnt even fricking matter if not for the government getting involved in healthcare. before it ddnt affect me one bit. SO blame socialist policies making others pay for dumb people making dumb choices
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Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon
well if you dont like it, buy the land and hold it as a private nature preserve...nothing fricking stopping you.
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Meanwhile almost all information about products and economic issues seems to be clouded in a fog of deceit and half truths to keep us all in the dark. It is like most everything in our society is a lie in order to maximize profit.
lol more because of the media and big government being in bed with each other and on the take. nothing to do with capitalism
ill be honest, nothing you wrote makes any sense and your lack of understanding of principles is outright scary.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:02 pm to Arch of Titus
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Capitalism does not mean "free market"
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
Capitalism does not mean "free market"
You can't have a society where those with the most money rule everything. You MUST have a State, representing the people as a whole, to act as a regulator of the power of the wealthy.
Capitalism does NOT mean No State
Capitalism does NOT mean No State
Capitalism does NOT mean No State
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:03 pm to weagle99
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Or maybe it isn’t compatible with our modern culture?
The fake internet one?
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Look how China is shielded from any blame for anything it is doing? Because US interests and profits
That's just a commentary on corrupt politicians...of which any system has...?
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Look at how many tub of lard Americans are waddling around? Because we have to maximize profits by selling garbage food with corn syrup, etc
Given the freedom to make choices, people will still flock, even blue haired hippos, with bad BO, tattoos, and obsession with pop culture.
If given no choice, they would still flock.
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Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon
You don't think communism does this?
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Meanwhile almost all information about products and economic issues seems to be clouded in a fog of deceit and half truths to keep us all in the dark. It is like most everything in our society is a lie in order to maximize profit
If you think all these lies are to maximize profit, I think you're wrong. I think it's population control. Agree to disagree here.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:04 pm to jawnybnsc
I agree that capitalism is best, but it is not without its faults.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:04 pm to weagle99
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I don’t support Socialism nor Communism. Just taking a step back to evaluate my beliefs.
Yes, voluntary transactions are so bad.
We all need a government monopoly to set prices via central planning, and accept what our overlords give us.
Humans can't handle comfort. Luxury and comfort was supposed to fuel our drive to make the world a better place.
We did, and humans were too soft and let it destroy them.
Let these people fail. Its not the free market, its their inability to reign in their own lusts. Let them fail.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:04 pm to weagle99
So many conservatives think that the choice is either "private companies are allowed to censor you and also have the right to promote LGBT nonstop" or "the government owns all businesses and you are their slave"
That is called Lightswitch Brain thinking and is retarded.
That is called Lightswitch Brain thinking and is retarded.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:05 pm to Revelator
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We have lots of crony capitalism in the US, but that’s different than actual capitalism
Ah yes, the ole no true Scotsman.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:05 pm to weagle99
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As I get older I start to wonder if Capitalism is really the best approach
Literally would have none of the conveniences you have now. TD would not exist nor would the phone/computer your posting to it from. Humans will always have corruption, capitalism is not exempt.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 12:06 pm to Arch of Titus
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So many conservatives think that the choice is either "private companies are allowed to censor you and also have the right to promote LGBT nonstop" or "the government owns all businesses and you are their slave"
That is called Lightswitch Brain thinking and is retarded.
Correct.
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