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As I get older I start to wonder if Capitalism is really the best approach

Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:42 am
Or maybe it isn’t compatible with our modern culture?

Look how China is shielded from any blame for anything it is doing? Because US interests and profits.

Look at how many tub of lard Americans are waddling around? Because we have to maximize profits by selling garbage food with corn syrup, etc.

Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon

Meanwhile almost all information about products and economic issues seems to be clouded in a fog of deceit and half truths to keep us all in the dark. It is like most everything in our society is a lie in order to maximize profit.

I don’t support Socialism nor Communism. Just taking a step back to evaluate my beliefs.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 11:44 am
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19368 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:43 am to
You took the long way around to telling us you are borderline retarded
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:44 am to
Capitalism is just an economic engine. It is, indeed, the best engine to minimize poverty and generate wealth in a fair and balanced way that we have yet devised. It's not close.

How that engine is used (or abused) should not be conflated with how badass the engine is.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:44 am to
And you took the short way round to admitting you never reflect on your beliefs.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:45 am to
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How that engine is used should not be conflated with how badass the engine is.


I can agree with this.

So then the question becomes: In the real world, in American society, can it ever be used correctly?
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 11:46 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10618 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:45 am to
Y'all ever heard of anybody traveling around the world to sneak into China for its authoritarianism?

Didn't think so.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27233 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:46 am to
You are placing your blame in the wrong place...
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9087 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:46 am to
When capitalism is over-regulated, as we have now, we all start to wonder.

When you have to be bonded, licensed, and insured to paint a house or cut hair ......
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4989 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:46 am to
Capitalism is the only moral system for organizing an economy. I've reflected on it and that's the answer.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:47 am to
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You are placing your blame in the wrong place...


Thanks. Can you help me to understand? Being serious.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39729 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:48 am to
You can critique any system. Unless you can identify a better system, you are left tinkering with the one you have. Can you? I can’t.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27233 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:48 am to
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Being serious.


Capitalism is not the problem... The problem is government putting its thumb on every single thing, creating rules that prohibit entry into markets, etc...
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:49 am to
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Look at how many tub of lard Americans are waddling around? Because we have to maximize profits by selling garbage food with corn syrup, etc.

Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon


Those tubs of lard are subsidizing their shite diet with government benefits. Those low quality apartments are many times Section 8 housing.

Capitalism isn't perfect (no system is) but competition bred by the free market is a million times better than any product our federal government has ever created and run.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72203 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:50 am to
I have started to wonder if Democratic elections are truly the best system.

On a small scale, absolutely.

On a large country-wide scale, I am not so sure anymore. More time is spent campaigning and appeasing voting blocs than actually governing.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:50 am to
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The problem is government putting its thumb on every single thing, creating rules that prohibit entry into markets, etc...


I can also agree with this. This is where we ended up, and maybe where we were always destined to end up considering our system of government.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29024 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:50 am to
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I don’t support Socialism nor Communism. Just taking a step back to evaluate my beliefs.



i sometimes struggle with this.

i always come away realizing that any other method is more susceptible to absolute corruption.

there's plenty of room for corruption in capitalism, but you can still find your way out of it or above it.

i.e. a corrupt socialist in charge leaves no room to escape and he's hurting me for my own good. a corrupt capitalist in charge leaves a chance to escape and he's hurting me for his own good.
Posted by Arch of Titus
Member since Oct 2022
35 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:50 am to
Conservatives have been conditioned to think capitalism must mean "private businesses can do whatever they want in the market"

We obviously need market forces, but with controls for the national interest, limits on their culture altering behaviors etc. It's not rocket science - you are free do conduct business but not free to harm society.
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:52 am to
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Hey do you like that stand of 200 year old hardwoods? Tough shite we are going to flatten them and build low quality apartments that will turn to trash soon

But who signs the permits to allow that ugly shite to get built. Everything goes back to politicians F-ing us. None of those ugly shite apartments would get built if politicians weren’t scum bags stuffing their pockets with bribes from the developers.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 11:53 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:52 am to
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Or maybe it isn’t compatible with our modern culture?


Western Civilization decided to play God and not let Darwinism do its job.

Instead of survival of the fittest, we now have a culture that rewards weakness and pays the least productive among us to breed and feed.

That all sounds cold, but it's true.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46381 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:55 am to
Capitalism is the best egalitarian economic system in practice…..if you want to know why Capitalism becomes more crony than egalitarian you need to understand the Federal Reserve/Fiat Monetary System and their connection to Big Banking and Wall Street…….and the political class. If you could have a honest one on one with Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, Maxine Waters or numerous other Swamp politicians they could tell you in great detail how the US Corporatocracy works.
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