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re: Why are guns a right in the Constitution but not affordable housing?

Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39622 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:16 am to
right.

libs: we need immigrants to fill the jobs!

Also libs: the welfare class cant find jobs!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26790 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:17 am to
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THE RENT INCREASED. Their wage DID NOT

So move to an affordable location. Get a better job.

You are not entitled to a home that you are renting from someone else beyond the terms of your lease. Period. If you want the same monthly rate on your home in perpetuity, buy it and negotiate those terms with your lender, or quit signing monthly leases.

Move out of the uber expensive cities that provide zero upward wage mobility for the uneducated.

But regardless, all you need to do is propose specifically how we would amend the constitution to force landlords to lose money. Then we can actually discuss. Nothing is gained from pissing matches over vague abstractions.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 10:21 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9431 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:21 am to
You are not bright.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9950 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:22 am to
There were less degenerate bums in 1776.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:23 am to
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but no one is rallying to end homelessness constitutionally. Why is that?


Not my fricking problem.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30607 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:23 am to
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Why are guns a right in the Constitution but not affordable housing?
This could be the first question that a true Leftist would ask!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39622 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:25 am to
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So move to an affordable location. Get a better job.

You are not entitled to a home that you are renting from someone else beyond the terms of your lease. Period. If you want the same monthly rate on your home in perpetuity, buy it and negotiate those terms with your lender, or quit signing monthly leases.

Move out of the uber expensive cities that provide zero upward wage mobility for the uneducated.

But regardless, all you need to do is propose specifically how we would amend the constitution to force landlords to lose money. Then we can actually discuss. Nothing is gained from pissing matches over vague abstractions.


Spot on. Market forces will ensure fair and competitive housing prices. If there is any incongruity between the housing market and pricing, that blame lies solely with government intervention in matters such as rates, petro products, section 8, etc.

Further, tenant cant refuse to seek higher employment or relocate to more affordable areas, then demand that same government to price fix housing for them.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39622 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:26 am to
In the United States in 2022, homelessness is a choice.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:26 am to
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Looks to me like a lot of americans are facing eviction arent they
And you think this is the landlords' fault? Excluding *some* health conditions, most people are in a position in life that is entirely of their own creation.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:29 am to
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Why are guns a right in the Constitution but not affordable housing?


Why are guns a right in the Constitution but not sex with OT 8-10 women any time you want it?

that is a better question
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13663 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:30 am to
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So is minimum wage a livable wage?




Who cares? There shouldnt be a minimum wage. Many people who are being paid minimum are not worth what they are being paid.

Example would be MANY in fast food.

If we want more productive members of society we would abolish all welfare.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:33 am to
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I also counter that "Drug Abuse" is only a problem due to the illegality.

Nope. Addiction doesn't go away because it gets the OK.
quote:

A Federal District Judge, in a failed attempt to force rescheduling pot case, ruled that not only is pot safer than potatoes

Nope.
quote:

the green on taters is strychnine, a poison

Nope, it's solanine, found in all nightshades, not NEARLY as toxic.
quote:

water intoxication can kill you

I can kill someone with pot easier than forcing enough water down their throat to deplete them of electrolytes.

These are the stupid "bro science" musings of potheads. They're not true, but the sound smart, so they get repeated.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39622 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:33 am to
I would argue that minimum wage, regardless of where its set, should NEVER be a living wage. This only incentivizes laziness and career stagnation, and it forces prices upward. We've seen this happen in places like Seattle where it was tried.

If you want affordable housing, living wages are one of the fastest ways to destroy that.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
1125 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:34 am to
That is a magnificent way to have discussion. I know that you know he won’t do anything of the sort, but I applaud your rational way of approaching debate.

Goes back to the idea that it’s harder to tell someone they’ve been fooled than to actually fool someone.
Posted by 225life
Member since Feb 2018
59 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:41 am to
I actually agree with him, and I have read it! You should read it, too Mr. Agreeable. You should learn how to debate from him.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116357 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:42 am to
Here's the great thing about the Constitution. If you want affordable housing to become a right, there are ways to amend the constitution to make it so.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13663 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:43 am to
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THE

RENT

INCREASED. Their wage DID NOT




GAS

PRICES

INCREASED. Their wage DID NOT.

Does that mean we need affordable fuel prices?






(Every comment you have made is ignorant.)
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73506 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:43 am to
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You should learn how to debate from him.


Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51877 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:44 am to
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There are debates surrounding if guns or abortion should be rights but no one is rallying to end homelessness constitutionally. Why is that?


You have the same rights for a home as you do for a firearm: you have the right to purchase and then possess it. Aside from expropriation and property taxes, there's little difference in limits of ownership between the two.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140994 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:44 am to
Shut up alter commie.
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