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re: James webb tele proving big bang theory probably is inaccurate

Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:09 pm to
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Wrong. The jest has not proven or even suggested the Big Bang theory is wrong.
yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:11 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.

I’ll never understand why these two things are seemingly mutually exclusive to so many people.

If you believe in God, why the frick could he not have acted through the Big Bang/evolution, etc, [insert your scientific theory here]? The existence of one does not prevent the other from also being true.

Unless you’re one of the literal/textualist creationists that thinks everything was created in six days. Then you’re just an idiot.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 7:12 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:11 pm to
Creator could have used a Big Bang, or not. Does it matter? Still fascinating.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:26 pm to
Who gives a shite about how the universe started? There IS NO creator. That is never going to make sense.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:43 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


What? God created everything regardless of how he did it.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:10 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


Cosmic inflation was discovered by a Catholic priest.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:22 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


Actually it is the opposite. Big Bang is support for a creator. In Big Bang, the universe has a beginning and thus needs a creator.

A steady state universe is an eternal universe without beginning or end, thus no creator needed.

At the moment, evidence supports Big Bang and a creator necessary.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 10:43 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


You don’t think God works through physical, chemical, and biological processes?
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 11:02 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.




That is presuming the world of scientists all agree it's either God or the big bang, and that there could be no such thing as a third option.... (or an outrageous sum of other possibilities)

The age of religion being against science or vice versa is over. Science and those who study it don't care if there is a God or not. It's irrelevant. It's the study of observations thru the tools we have. Religion supposes a God created the universe. Science is included among the things he created.

They're not at odds.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 11:04 pm
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1174 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 11:04 pm to
reasons.org (Reasons to Believe)
this is an organization of highly credentialed & published PHDs Scientists physicists, etc. who tie the biblical record accounts to current science. I have read several of their books. The web site is an excellent resource on scientific creation & intelligent design.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 11:17 pm to
If God created the Universe, and spoke it into existence...what would that look like to human eyes?

Probably a lot of nothing, followed by a big....BANG! suddenly there's stuff everywhere.

I don't see the perception of a Big Bang theory as incompatible with creation stories. If anything, they support the general idea of sudden incarnation where previously there existed nothingness.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 11:41 am to
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Wrong. The jest has not proven or even suggested the Big Bang theory is wrong.
yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


Big Bang doesn't disprove anything.

Time is meaningless to an all-powerful deity. Him creating everything in 6 days and resting on the 7th is just something they either put in the bible to make the story more understandable for the audience at the time, or he created all this in one of his "days" which can be any length of time to us.

Jesus was a carpenter and by all accounts actually built things, he didn't just snap his fingers and put together a house or table. Who says there wasn't a physical process to creation that we know as the Big Bang, an event that supposedly everything came from in an instant?
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6799 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 1:33 pm to
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.


Not mutually exclusive. Big Bang Theory was formulated by a Catholic Priest.
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