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re: At what point does NIL just completely ruin College Football?

Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:38 pm to
Already!
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9942 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:59 pm to
When the players make more than the coaches, just like it ruined professional football
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:59 pm to
you woukd think the obvious corruption of refs would have ruined it but you people pretend everything is on the up and up.
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 11:46 pm to
Already there.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:22 am to
Because you don’t give immature teenagers millions of dollars when they haven’t proven a thing. Plus kids that age have no idea how to manage money like that.

It’s a recipe for disaster and college football will be absolutely ruined within 5 years or less. If you think NIL is better for college football then I guess you are just a fool. We can’t help you.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 1:28 am to
In what way does that "ruin" college football?

If you like freedom then you should support the NIL with the fewest amount of restrictions as possible.

We stopped pretending it was about anything other than money years ago. When people complained about football taking over universities y'all said football was a money maker and it was "separate". Welp, this is the next logical step.
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8319 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:16 am to
I'm interested to see what happens when inevitability a recruit underperforms or transfers after signing a big deal. Is the money guaranteed regardless of performance on the field? Like what if a 4 or 5 star can't even get on the field? Do they keep paying him $500k or whatever the number is? If a player transfers does that void the remainder of the contract or does he sign a new deal with his new school and still collect from the previous school (I know it's not actually the schools making direct payments but for all intents and purposes it is)? There's also a 100% chance that taxes are going to be mishandled/ not paid on a lot of this money.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66275 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:29 am to
Sorry, not sorry, but the new college football sucks.

Freedom is great, but I still prefer the way college football was structured prior to all this.

I liked the idea of scholarships being the pay for play at the college level. I'm not exactly sure if this is comparable to the free world. The beauty of college sports was the difference from professional. And now they want to make the playoffs like pros. It just doesn't feel right. I hate having to root for the biggest NIL deals during recruiting. Seems hard to sustain and now look what A&M is easily doing.


NIL is not free market capitalism

Some more interesting discussion there. Good counterpoints as well.

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With that said, if you think it’s the same now as it was 15 years ago, you’re wrong. Now that money can legally change hands, the amounts will become higher and higher, further allowing money schools to get blue chip athletes.


I think I agree with this.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5838 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:05 am to
Nil is what it is, if someone will pay him then let him make that money. The issue is the trader portal.


Zero accountability at all, free schools which is huge, and then they Can leave when ever with zero sit out?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32702 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:38 am to
I'll say it- it's dead to me.

Eli Ricks at Bama
Max Johnson at A&M

We had to get in a bidding war to keep our all-American from New Iberia home instead of going to Bama for his Junior year and we won because of an injury attorney

It will never be the same again
Posted by bigtig
Member since Aug 2005
835 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 5:41 am to
Has already ruin college sports. Just as soon become the minor leagues of all the big sports, baseball, football, basketball.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93819 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 5:52 am to
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its already changed the game. You don't have to wait 3 years.

Players are now here on a season by season basis, maybe less. Rosters will be incredibly dynamic, and not all in a good way. Its just a semi pro league now with one year roster builds.

Then you'll have kids like Max Johnson who will probably be somewhere else in 2023. Your QB this year might be at Alabama next year.

You're talking about the transfer portal. The thread is about NIL.

The post I responded to was talking about changing the game on the field. You're talking roster management.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:07 am to
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Because you don’t give immature teenagers millions of dollars when they haven’t proven a thing.


They may have not proven a thing at the college level but they have proven they have talent. I get most of these kids are natural athletes but in order to be a top recruit you have to work to get there also and they have proven they are better than their peers. How is that different than the NFL giving a college athlete millions of dollars when they haven’t proven they can play at the NFL level?

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If you think NIL is better for college football then I guess you are just a fool.


NIL isn’t great for college football we can agree on that but all people should be allowed to make money off of themselves.

I feel that most college football fans are putting NIL on the players for doing what they should be able to do for themselves. We need to be upset at the adults that are willing to give these kids massive deals. That’s where the problem is. The players are just taking what someone is willing to give them.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:28 am to
I guess it depends on what you mean by ruin. Because the college football that we grew up with is gone and is never coming back.

But it will still exist and people will still go and tv networks will still pay lots of $ for it.

But if by ruined you mean the game will never be the same, that's already happened.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45235 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:29 am to
I can see NIL and transfer portal at some point self regulating itself. A player can still only transfer one time. Also if we are going to allow a player to blackmail a program for a bigger NIL deal by threatening to transfer we can also expect a program to cut a player loose who under achieves but has a big deal or the program has his deal reduced. Also don't be surprised if a player who signs a big deal causes a problem for lack of playing time knowing his NIL worth could be in danger.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10328 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:33 am to
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At what point does NIL just completely ruin College Football?


About 9 months ago.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23247 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:57 am to
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Not a fan of capitalism?

You misspelled bribery.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5323 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:58 am to
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Having the best players is obviously a good thing but there’s more to that than winning championships.

Not really? I mean even Bama doesn’t win EVERY year but its the most talented rosters that win the NC EVERY YEAR - Bama, OSU, Clemson, LSU, Florida, UGA, ND ect that play in the CFP.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50434 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:25 am to
I find it funny that everyone is now upset about this.

You do realize this was going on anyway, the NCAA would just pick and choose who to punish for it.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10532 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:29 am to
NIL was part of a plan to draw talent away from the SEC. It was meant to help the big markets.

Even if it wasn’t meant for that, it’s the natural progression since that’s where the most opportunity lies for these players.

Offering your NIL to Joes Tire Shop isn’t going to bring you the best atheletes.

And then the impact on players will cause some to hold back as they don’t want to hurt their NIL deals by getting injured. When an 18 year old has millions already coming in, he’s going to be a bit more careful.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 7:33 am
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