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re: At what point does NIL just completely ruin College Football?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:19 am to 4TheLoveLSU
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:19 am to 4TheLoveLSU
It is what it is!
Stop watching if you don't like it.
Stop watching if you don't like it.
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:23 am to baytiger11
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Imo, if you want to support NIL, they shouldn't be called "student" athletes. Regular students don't get paid $3 M, a house and a car for their "talents" while in school
Nothing is stopping them. Literally nothing.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:24 am to baytiger11
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CFB is now a minor league with free agency and no cap. And if that's the case, shite might as well change the names, the colors, the mascots, move the venues off campus.
If these guys are going to be receiving 2nd round draft pick money for their "talents", there's no need to be walking the same campus as the students when they're there for completely different reasons.
In the famous words of Cardale Jones "We ain't here to play school"
Why didn't this argument apply a year ago? 10 years ago? 50 years ago? 75 years ago?
Hell, possibly 100 years ago. CFB players, for the most part, were NEVER "here to play school". Why are we pretending that's changed?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:26 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:so they can go open up an engineering firm with no certification and get paid for their "talents"?
Nothing is stopping them. Literally nothing.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:26 am to SCP
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Stop watching if you don't like it.
Its not sustainable. Not with the unlimited transfer portal. That's the bigger issue IMO.
Well, and the fact that NIL will never work as intended. Instead of supplementing income from name, image and likeness, its' just a bidding war for on field talent.
While paying certain players hasn't changed, the scope will which is what makes it unsustainable.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Well, and the fact that NIL will never work as intended. Instead of supplementing income from name, image and likeness, its' just a bidding war for on field talent.
They don’t have a name, image, or likeness that is worth paying for without the talent. They go together. I do believe the issue is they are overpaying and I agree long term it will all level out.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:38 am to baytiger11
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so they can go open up an engineering firm with no certification and get paid for their "talents"?
Probably not, but that's not what was stated.
Normal students are free to make money as students. Hell, LSU has one of the biggest social media stars in the world. Was being a student prohibiting her fame and fortune? No.
Students at real schools on the west coast make tons of money with startups in tech. Was being a student prohibiting their fortune? No.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Not with the unlimited transfer portal.
Doesn't exist. You get 1 free transfer.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:43 am to 4TheLoveLSU
Were pretty close to there until there is more policing of it. Pay the players, I have no problem with that and really don't think there needs to be a cap. But I hate how teams are reaching out to the players to entice them to transfer with these NIL deals. That needs to be policed. Like straight up needs to be a precedent for punishment on that. That is the part that is ruining the sport not paying the players.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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. You get 1 free transfer.
With no stipulations.
The best free agency in sports, bar none.
For 18 year old kids, that's not going to work out well.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:44 am to SlowFlowPro
For the record, I don’t think NIL will ruin college football. It will change it but humans are an adaptable species. Some people may stop watching but there will still be an audience and the sport will still make a ton of money.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:50 am to geauxtigers33
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I don’t think NIL will ruin college football.
It will change it dramatically. There's no way many schools can compete in this arms race.
Watch U$C. They built a war chest and will crush everyone in a couple of years.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I was speaking more in terms of geared toward their major, not a side job... Just as football players are making money for their true talent, football.
Normal students are free to make money as students. Hell, LSU has one of the biggest social media stars in the world. Was being a student prohibiting her fame and fortune? No.
quote:I mean, there are plenty opportunities in tech that showcase talent, that don't require certification. Just a good product.
Students at real schools on the west coast make tons of money with startups in tech. Was being a student prohibiting their fortune? No.
I guess I'm just salty because I'm looking at it through the lens of college students that have "talent", but still have to bide their time for a certification or piece of paper to start making real money for their "talent".
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:00 am to IM_4_LSU
quote:I feel like if the transfer rules change, it'll just move to schools offering guaranteed 3 or 4-year contracts. Players will go to whichever school offers the best longevity.
hate how teams are reaching out to the players to entice them to transfer with these NIL deals. That needs to be policed
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:11 am to baytiger11
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Players will go to whichever school offers the best longevity.
Well, that's at least something you can build around. The current free agency, its damn near impossible to have continuity.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:12 am to IM_4_LSU
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But I hate how teams are reaching out to the players to entice them to transfer with these NIL deals.
I posted this earlier, but Im sure one kid will get smart and sign all these contracts for multiple schools and then not transfer to any of them.
The deals cant be tied to the schools so what are these companies going to do, break the contract because the player didnt transfer?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:26 am to Padme
College (since they are now legally paid) and pro players should be paid according to performance: catches, completions, blocks, tackles, etc. Get a stupid penalty, pay is deducted. You can coast on the bench, but you’ll earn peanuts.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:40 am to kengel2
quote:come on, man.
The deals cant be tied to the schools so what are these companies going to do, break the contract because the player didnt transfer?
The schools themselves can't enter into NIL deals, but the boosters who do the actual NIL deals will certainly have a contract with the player that requires the player to enroll and play for the particular school.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:47 am to atltiger6487
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The schools themselves can't enter into NIL deals, but the boosters who do the actual NIL deals will certainly have a contract with the player that requires the player to enroll and play for the particular school.
But thats against the only NIL rule, the deal cant influence the choice of college for the athlete. Its like the only rule there is, although the NCAA has no way to enforce it.
Its basically, going to take someone challenging the system and making someone else look like a fool. Let one of these rich dudes get burnt and look stupid and I guarantee the rules will change.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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Hell, possibly 100 years ago. CFB players, for the most part, were NEVER "here to play school". Why are we pretending that's changed?
Meh...I'd argue up until at least 10 - 15 years ago or so players were at the school of their choice for both school pride and opportunity.
Now it is 100% opportunity.
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