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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1988 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:34 pm to
If your chlorine is coming through a stack of pucks, then that is very likely why your CYA is up and you have to drain the pool. The pucks include conditioner and the conditioner is what raises the CYA.

We have been maintaining or pool ourselves for 2 years after going through the same thing you are going through for the second time. The pool services do not seem to have a concern about the CYA increasing.

We now only use liquid chlorine we get from a local pool store. We usually only need to add a gallon a week during the heat of the summer for our 25,000 gallon pool. We keep the PH level with acid but that is not too often. We use no other chemicals.

Also, a Dolphin cleaner is well worth the cost and it replaces the pool service. Our pool is cleaner with our Dolphin than when the service was cleaning it.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14987 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:14 pm to
My chlorine seems to be fine, but my cya is low. I use chlorine pucks with a UV.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:20 pm to
Water features supposedly increase pH also
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28728 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:10 am to
Troublefreepool.com
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28728 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:23 am to
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TroubleFreePool School

It’s great that it’s so pervasive.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28728 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:35 am to
From what I’ve learned, the strips are good for salt test, otherwise for the other things the big test kits linked above are best.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11537 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 1:53 am to
Use the trouble free pool method. It's really easy. The only thing that sucks about our pool (other than the pump went out and we can't get the timer/control panel we want because of MUH CHIPS) are the leaves. We have two large live oaks and those bitches drop leaves year round. They don't even overhang the pool but those leaves get everywhere. The canal behind our house is full of water oaks but those aren't a big deal. 100% get a dolphin pool cleaner, the only problem I have with our is we have TOO Many leave drop. Besides the leaves we would brush the sides and steps once a week, add chlorine and balance the acid/calcium once a year or after really big rainfalls. Testing daily takes a couple of minutes.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5568 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:26 pm to
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Join the troublefreepool message board

I'll add to the many here that say troublefreepool.com is the way to go. I test my water pretty much once a week using a taylor test kit. It only takes a few minutes since I do it so often. The first month or two i was much slower. I occasionally use the same test strips that CAD posted, but I don't find they are as accurate as the real test... but they do help in a pinch.

Guinite pool (no salt). Clorine is handled with liquid bleach only; I average about a gallon a week. PH can go up if I'm using my water features and then I dump a little muriatic acid to bring it back down. About 1-2 times per year I have to add some calcium hardness increaser to prevent etching. I do have a bucket of chlorine tabs that only get used if my CYA goes down after a lot of rain. All in all, I spend less than 30 minutes a week on my pool and the water is insanely clear. My pool water is probably better than my drinking water.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12626 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:53 pm to
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I'll add to the many here that say troublefreepool.com is the way to go. I test my water pretty much once a week using a taylor test kit. It only takes a few minutes since I do it so often. The first month or two i was much slower. I occasionally use the same test strips that CAD posted, but I don't find they are as accurate as the real test... but they do help in a pinch.

Guinite pool (no salt). Clorine is handled with liquid bleach only; I average about a gallon a week. PH can go up if I'm using my water features and then I dump a little muriatic acid to bring it back down. About 1-2 times per year I have to add some calcium hardness increaser to prevent etching. I do have a bucket of chlorine tabs that only get used if my CYA goes down after a lot of rain. All in all, I spend less than 30 minutes a week on my pool and the water is insanely clear. My pool water is probably better than my drinking water.



I just started up my pool a few weeks ago and I'm overwhelmed with information. I need to spend some time looking at troublefreepools - I have an account, but just need to dig in.

I hired someone to look after it since immediately after I plastered and filled, I had to spend a few weeks traveling. Now that I'm back home, I need to get on top of it and get a plan together.

Appreciate this thread!
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5424 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Water features supposedly increase pH also



I did a little reading this morning and did not know this, but it makes sense.

"Swimming Pools with salt systems will have to add extra acid to balance the pH. The chlorine compound that these systems add to the water has a pH of 11. As it chlorinates it is also raising the pH of the water."


A bit more detail
quote:

Manufacturers say their salt chlorine generators produce chlorine that is closer to pH neutral—i.e., 7 on the pH scale of 0 to 14—than most other forms (see chart), so this chlorine has less overall effect on pool pH. However, a byproduct of the salt to chlorine reaction is sodium hydroxide (NaOH). The production of sodium hydroxide will push the pH higher, requiring more frequent addition of acid in salt pools. The consequences of improper pH are the same, regardless of the method of sanitation. We recommend testing pH daily in pools with salt chlorine generators. Easy color-matching tests (with liquid reagents or strips) are available for this purpose, and a pH meter or colorimeter may be used.

This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1798 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 5:47 pm to
Been doing it myself for about 10 months. The pool stores around here test it for free and tell you how much of what you need to add based on the size of your pool. I shock it about once a week in the summer and usually keep one 3 inch tab in the chlorinator which will last about a week or so. I buy the acid from the pool store as it’s cheap, about $7 a gallon, and you almost always have to add acid I’ve found. I get my baking soda from Costco or Amazon and it’s way cheaper than the balance pak stuff the stores try to sell and exactly the same thing. Got 30 lbs of baking soda for $21 a few weeks ago and it lasts a while as my alkalinity doesn’t move as much as Ph. Big thing is running your pump/filter long enough to move the whole pool through the filter in a 24 hour period. Usually about 8 hours or so a day. The biggest thing I find is being diligent about cleaning debris from the pool and vacuuming, especially as it gets warmer. Organic material contains phosphates which lead to algae growth so keeping your pool free of leaves and pollen and maintaining the filter is probably the most important thing you can do. I’ll also typically backwas once a week or so in the summer or after a big rain. Maintenance in the winter, at least in south Louisiana, is very easy as chemical levels are more consistent and not much growth happens when the water is below 80°
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
675 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:40 pm to
How often do y’all clean your salt cell? I took mine off for the first time after a year of use and it didn’t have any scale. I cleaned it with acid
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3055 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:12 am to
I’m a bit overwhelmed. Stayed up until 3am just trying to understand terminology and looking at pool schematics.
Going to Leslie’s today.
I did figure out I have a sand filter.

So, is acid the same as shock?

My initial needs are:
Test kit
Liquid chlorine or bleach
Acid
Baking soda

Has anyone used Borax?
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9857 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:58 am to
quote:

I’m a bit overwhelmed. Stayed up until 3am just trying to understand terminology and looking at pool schematics.
Going to Leslie’s today.
I did figure out I have a sand filter.


I would maybe go talk to a local mom and pop pool store rather than Leslie's if thats an option. I've heard Leslie's really tries to upsell stuff. You might even be able to get one of their techs out to give you a "pool school" class on how your system works.

Things you might need to know are:
-What all your equipment is-ie pump, filter, chlorinator,
heater etc (get them labeled too)
-How many gallons your pool holds (there are calculators online for this)
-How to turn the valves and what they do
-If you have an automatic filler, or if you have to manually fill it when it starts to get low due to evaporation
-What kind of vacuum you have and how to hook it up
-How to turn on and off your pump, set a timer on it, and how to prime it to get it pumping
-Then learn how the chemicals work. FYI to answer your question, acid is not the same as shock. Also, lots of people here manage their own chemicals, but some of us bring a sample to a local pool store once or twice a month and they run a free test and tell you what you need. They may try to upsell some fancy stuff, so watch out.
-Before you drain it, talk to someone. I've heard some horror stories about draining an inground pool and it actually pops up out of the ground.

Hope this helps-coming from a guy who bought a house with a pool a year ago and had to figure this stuff out too.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
675 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 1:47 pm to
There is a lot of good info/videos online. It’s really not bad. I’ve been doing it for a year and it’s not that bad. My water stays clear with little effort, but you’ll have some trial and errors.

Also watch you water levels if it hasn’t rained in a few days and you don’t have an auto fill.

With a sand filter, you’ll have to back wash to clean the sand. I probably do this once a month or so during the summer. Usually after a hard rain when the water level is high in the pool.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27034 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 4:26 pm to
As mentioned. Trouble free pool is a wealth of information.

Just be aware that they can get a little snooty. Their deal is that everything or about 90% of what you buy at Leslie’s is bad.

But they are knowledgeable.

Also a tough time to drop your service. Buying your own chlorine will not be cheap. 3” tabs are outrageous.
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3055 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 7:44 pm to
Thank you for all the help and replies.

I probably kept the pool service too long, as they weren’t doing what they were supposed to do. They were however going up on my monthly service. I don’t know what y’all pay, but I went from $125 to $165 in six months.

Leslie’s is the only place I know of and I felt I needed to do something today, as it’s been a week since last service. I’ll seek other options going forward.

Leslie’s tested my water and chlorine is fine. Very high calcium hardness, high TDS, high CyA and high total alkalinity.

So, definitely recommended draining the pool, which I already knew, it’s been eight years since the last time it was drained. Have a couple of calls out for bids on draining and cleaning tile.

The only thing Roger told me to do was add muriatic acid, so I’m working on that now. Every four hours I add 16 ounces, until I use a gallon, then test again.

A lot of good information on trouble free. I’ve only looked at school so, haven’t been on the forum. I also tried the math app and don’t quite understand it. For one thing, there isn’t an option for pebble tec, so not sure what to choose instead.

My pool measures 80 sq ft., so that’s 8000 gallons, right?

To all of you…
Posted by Vrai
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
3899 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 8:06 pm to
Length x width x average depth x 7.5 = volume
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9857 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 8:28 pm to
Are you sure it’s 80 square feet? How many feet long is it, How many feet wide is it? And how deep is it?

Also, if you’re going to drain it soon, adding any chemicals to it right now is probably a waste of money.

Also, before you have it drained, how does your water and your pool look? Blue, clean, murky, green, brown?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17890 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

I don’t know what y’all pay, but I went from $125 to $165 in six months.


I have a saltwater, but my guy comes by every 6 weeks, tests, leaves chemicals, sends me test report with instructions. My typical bill is like $35.

quote:

So, definitely recommended draining the pool


Can’t you get away with partially draining and diluting high mineral levels with new water?
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