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re: Stop moving the goalpost- this is a talented team

Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:42 am to
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13151 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:42 am to
We are definitely talented. But we still suck at 2 strike hitting. And it feels like every team we play not named Maine or a SWAC team are far better 2 strike hitters than we are (against us anyway).
Posted by sportsfan
Member since Feb 2011
3489 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:44 am to
I actually like all three of the guys I mentioned. Just blows my mind that they can't have success with anything other than a fastball.

In Gervase's case, I think he has a decent slider. Kelly just doesn't call it enough.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261526 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:45 am to
Hitting is not the issue, hasn't been the issue, will not be the issue.

I don't know why this is so hard.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8292 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:50 am to
It’s a team who in the previous season had a sub .500 conference record. Starters like Marceaux, who carried that team, are no longer here. This is not an elite roster. It’s not even close.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:51 am to
Our fans expect someone to turn chicken shite Into chicken salad year one
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12580 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:56 am to
It’s a talented team that can’t make consistent routine plays (throws from 3rd / SS to 1b) and not a good starting rotation.

They have the more than enough time and talent to get in the zone to make a run…but they’re playing some bad ball right now.

It’s bad when I say “oh shite” eveytime the ball is hit to Thompson.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:57 am to
I don’t think anyone would deny that there’s talent on the team. There are legit 4 first rounders in Berry, Crews, Morgan, and Doughty.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 12:10 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36170 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

You want to know how many pitchers we have that are on par with 2 of the best pitchers to ever play at LSU? LSU has only had 3 pitchers selected in the top 10, Kevin Gausman, Aaron Nola, and Ben McDonald. We don't have a guy like that on this staff, along with 99% of the other teams in the country.

Perhaps I used a poor example, but we don’t have any pitchers close to what wd have had to win in the playoffs.

And top 200 HS pitchers are everywhere. You say we have four and one of them is hurt so that leaves us at three.
How many do our competitors have?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36170 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Our fans expect someone to turn chicken shite Into chicken salad year one



My expectations:
Our team would be fundamentally sound. We’d be able to bunt, protect the plate, and work pitchers.

Our young pitchers like Money, Coleman, Floyd, Edwards and Hellmers as a group would improve demonstrably. Only Money has.

The new pitchers that we got would really give us a boost.

Some hitters like Milazzo, Bianco, Thompson and others who struggled last year would show a marked improvement.

Team results? Who knows, we play an awesome schedule. But I wasn’t expecting what I’ve seen so far.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22163 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:13 pm to
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Our young pitchers like Money, Coleman, Floyd, Edwards and Hellmers as a group would improve demonstrably.


Why would you expect dramatic improvement from players you don't believe are talented?
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:21 pm to
We don’t have good pitching we didn’t last year.Floyd an Hellmers aren’t SEC quality pitchers so be hard for you to see improvement when they just aren’t talented
Posted by OilMan25
Youngsville, LA
Member since Nov 2013
355 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:23 pm to
Pitching wins championships PERIOD
Posted by sportsfan
Member since Feb 2011
3489 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:26 pm to
Floyd has one of the best fastballs in the college game. But if he can't throw any kind of offspeed pitch, then you'll be toast at this level. To say he's not talented is just not true.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36170 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:27 pm to
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Why would you expect dramatic improvement from players you don't believe are talented?
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They can improve
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85131 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:29 pm to
You can’t just have good pitching. See 2012.
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
758 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:35 pm to
They will improve. Johnson is a known commodity. Sit back and enjoy their progression. Having high expectations right now while they're still very much a work in progress will only let you down.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19454 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Outside of Money it's a bunch of arse

I thought Coleman’s injury was massive when it happened, but at this point I look at it as possibly season defining
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4486 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

We have talented pitchers.

Blake Money was a top 200 guy out of HS.
Grant Taylor was a top 200 guy out of HS.
Cade Lansville was a top 100 guy out of HS.
Javen Coleman was a top 50 LHP out of HS.
Eric Reyzelman was one of the top arms in the portal.
Devin Fontenot was one of the top bullpen arms in the country last year.
Paul Gervase has a ton of arm talent.
Garrett Edwards showed promise last year


this is like saying Les Miles had good quarterbacks. recruiting is a guessing game.
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:41 pm to
He has played baseball his whole life an has only a fastball to his name you answered it for me
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:42 pm to
Weren’t people telling everyone to calm down the last 3 years of Paul M term. It’s always the same shite. Half the side tells you to calm down and the other half wants to be better.
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