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Can someone explain Louisiana HS classifications to me? What's this I-V?
Posted on 3/5/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 3/5/22 at 5:28 pm
I understand the traditional 5A-C, but what is this I-V? I have never heard of this. They don't compete in traditional classes?
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Posted on 3/5/22 at 5:31 pm to SocraticTiger
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, but what is this I-V?
the select schools
Posted on 3/5/22 at 5:47 pm to SocraticTiger
Publics pretend they don't recruit and the privates only recruit so they play scared.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 6:54 pm to SocraticTiger
Private schools wanted to play by different rules so they were kicked out and there is now a split. And they are still bitter.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 11:24 pm to SocraticTiger
Well, pretty much the public schools want the private school parents to pay for the public school athletic programs in addition to paying for their own, but don't want to have to compete against them for championships.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 1:48 am to SocraticTiger
I've never understood the "they don't have any boundaries" argument against the private schools.
The private schools charge tuition -- in several cases it's more than $10K per year -- and that factor alone restricts their potential enrollment.
A public school may have 2,000 students, as Dutchtown, West Monroe, Barbe and a couple of others do, but are there 2,000 families in, say, Ascension Parish or Ouachita Parish who can afford and are willing to send their kids to a $10,000 high school?
The answer is clearly no.
Evangel and John Curtis both have, I think, enrollments in the 300s.
Yeah, the public school coaches argue, but the Catholic schools give scholarships. This is a myth. Most of the Catholic schools operate on a need-based system. You turn over your financial records, and they decide how much your tuition is going to be.
Look at it another way: At a public school, ALL of the players are "on scholarship."
If a coach is complaining about a private school "recruiting" a star player away, maybe the coach needs to ask himself why the family picked the private school athletic program over his.
I'm not trying to start a civil war over this. I'm just saying why I think the public-select split in Louisiana is foolish.
The private schools charge tuition -- in several cases it's more than $10K per year -- and that factor alone restricts their potential enrollment.
A public school may have 2,000 students, as Dutchtown, West Monroe, Barbe and a couple of others do, but are there 2,000 families in, say, Ascension Parish or Ouachita Parish who can afford and are willing to send their kids to a $10,000 high school?
The answer is clearly no.
Evangel and John Curtis both have, I think, enrollments in the 300s.
Yeah, the public school coaches argue, but the Catholic schools give scholarships. This is a myth. Most of the Catholic schools operate on a need-based system. You turn over your financial records, and they decide how much your tuition is going to be.
Look at it another way: At a public school, ALL of the players are "on scholarship."
If a coach is complaining about a private school "recruiting" a star player away, maybe the coach needs to ask himself why the family picked the private school athletic program over his.
I'm not trying to start a civil war over this. I'm just saying why I think the public-select split in Louisiana is foolish.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 7:39 am to SocraticTiger
It is proof that no one in the LHSAA has a lick of sense. Should abolish it and let Texas run our high school athletics.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 10:10 am to SocraticTiger
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This all started because of a small number of schools. There is a easy fix. The private schools open their books and show where tuition money is coming from. Simple as that.
I'd be in favor of that, and I'll bet the private school administrators would be okay with some sort of "who's paying what" report, too.
But there would probably be privacy concerns for some of the families. Some might not want everyone in town
knowing they are officially considered dirt-poor.
It's the same as in applying for financial aid in college. An applicant has to turn over things like W-2s, tax returns and financial statements. The school then decides what the student's family can afford.
I've talked to private high school administrators, and they all say this is more or less what they do, too.
But it's probably not as generous as you think. I doubt there are that many kids who are getting $10K, full-ride-type scholarships in Louisiana high schools. They aren't giving that education away -- well, most aren't.
I went to a New Orleans Catholic high school years and years ago only by the good graces of an endowed scholarship program that benefitted thousands of kids over the years.
I was not a varsity athlete. I checked no boxes as far as minorities, legacy alum or anything like that.
But I did have to take an entrance exam just to get in.
As far as I know, most private schools still do that.
What's the point of admitting a kid who can't keep up in the classroom?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:16 pm to SocraticTiger
This has been a typical discussion, but I didn't see anyone answer your question directly.
In 2013, the LHSAA (principals' organization) voted to separate the state football playoffs between select schools and non-select schools. As has been posted in this thread, the select schools are those schools with a selective admissions policy, which can refuse students; your typical private schools.
The non-select schools are those that must take everyone in their district; your traditional public schools.
This only involves the playoffs, they still play each other in regular season and district play.
The old classifications: A-AAAAA are the playoff classes for the non-select/public schools.
The new "divisions" denoted by I-IV are the playoff classes of the select/private schools.
A year or so later the LHSAA decided to split playoffs for boys and girls basketball, baseball and softball. What this created are 9 championships in football and even more for basketball.
In 2013, the LHSAA (principals' organization) voted to separate the state football playoffs between select schools and non-select schools. As has been posted in this thread, the select schools are those schools with a selective admissions policy, which can refuse students; your typical private schools.
The non-select schools are those that must take everyone in their district; your traditional public schools.
This only involves the playoffs, they still play each other in regular season and district play.
The old classifications: A-AAAAA are the playoff classes for the non-select/public schools.
The new "divisions" denoted by I-IV are the playoff classes of the select/private schools.
A year or so later the LHSAA decided to split playoffs for boys and girls basketball, baseball and softball. What this created are 9 championships in football and even more for basketball.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:24 pm to SocraticTiger
It blows my mind that 32 teams make the playoffs in the big classes and seeding is determined by some power poll. I’m a homer, but the Texas format is so much better where neighboring districts play in round 1, and you play until there’s a region champ before going to the state semis and final.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:15 pm to SocraticTiger
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Can someone explain Louisiana HS classifications to me? What's this I-V?
Basically, there is Class VA, and then there is everyone else..........
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