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re: Why are western movies not made anymore?
Posted on 2/25/22 at 4:10 am to goatmilker
Posted on 2/25/22 at 4:10 am to goatmilker
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And a new one is coming out called 'Rust' its about a ...oh yeah never mind.
The director’s cut has a realistic scene.
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Posted on 2/25/22 at 6:02 am to Woolfman_8
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Same thing will happen with superhero movies…. Eventually
Can't happen soon enough.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 10:26 am to Meatball
Maybe not the best westerns currently, but if you search the web for '12 westerns in 12 months' there is at least one fellow who has kicked out quite a few.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:18 am to Meatball
Cost is a major factor.
They are pretty expensive to make and they arent guaranteed to hit at the box office. Plenty of realy good westerns have died at the box office even though they have everything going for it.
A lot of the spaghetti westerns were all time great movies but they were also cheap to make. You cant just go over to Italy any more and it cost half as much to make.
Edit: It's possibly my favorite genre as well, but they are making a bit of a comeback with TV series'.
They are pretty expensive to make and they arent guaranteed to hit at the box office. Plenty of realy good westerns have died at the box office even though they have everything going for it.
A lot of the spaghetti westerns were all time great movies but they were also cheap to make. You cant just go over to Italy any more and it cost half as much to make.
Edit: It's possibly my favorite genre as well, but they are making a bit of a comeback with TV series'.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 11:20 am
Posted on 2/25/22 at 11:37 am to Woolfman_8
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Killing natives on screen is a hate crime
Just make the film in South Dakota or Montana as old blue laws still remain on the books.
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In South Dakota, if there are 5 or more Native Americans on your property, they can be considered to constitute a “raiding party” and you are in fact permitted to shoot them.
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In Montana, any group of 7 or more Native Americans who appear together anywhere in a public place can be considered to be a raiding party and can be arrested or shot (referred to with the term “Indians” in the law.)
Doubt enforceable and probably not the outcome you were hoping for.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 12:09 pm to LSUFreek
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Indians & Mexicans can't be portrayed as villains anymore in Hollywood. You also can't team up your lead with them without your lead being a white savior. So there goes half of your genre.
You are left with Lawmen vs Outlaws ...or Anti-hero Outlaws vs Corrupt Lawmen storylines.
Well, you had Dances with Wolves, which definitely didn't portray Indians in a negative light, and you had the Young Guns movies, which worked in the "Anti-Hero Outlaws" part. Tombstone had the Lawmen vs Outlaws and did it superbly.
I honestly think you can do it. The key is, obviously, good writing and staying true to the aesthetic, with a unique story. Definitely avoid retelling the Wyatt Earp story - it's been done to perfection with Tombstone.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:23 pm to skrayper
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Well, you had Dances with Wolves, which definitely didn't portray Indians in a negative light,...I honetly think you can do it.
Nah, that's why I said you couldn't even team up your lead character with the Indians. Twitter SJW trolls and Rotten Tomato critics would demonize Costner as a white savior because the Indians needed help against the invading colonizers/cavalry, and every entertainment outlet would parrot the minimal backlash as if the whole country were sky-screaming. That Oscar-winning movie wouldn't even be made today, either out of fear of controversy or bc of blind nonsensical virtue signalling.
But we both agree Young Guns (anti-hero) & Tombstone (brave lawmen) type movies could still be made, depending on a unique/fresh script. My point to the OP was the story options were limited now for movie-makers considering filming a western since the villain pool was cut in half, which is part of the reason for the relative scarcity of new westerns.
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:26 pm to rebelrouser
Where to stream:
The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs 2018 NETFLIX
True Grit 2010 NETFLIX
Deadwood 2019 HBO MAX
Revenant 2015 FX NOW
Django Unchained 2012 NETFLIX
Hostiles 2017 HULU
Meeks Cutoff 2011 AMC PLUS
Bone Tomahawk 2015 $3.99 rental on PRIME or APPLE TV
The Sisters Brothers 2018 HULU
Old Henry 2021 HULU
The Ballad Of Buster Scruggs 2018 NETFLIX
True Grit 2010 NETFLIX
Deadwood 2019 HBO MAX
Revenant 2015 FX NOW
Django Unchained 2012 NETFLIX
Hostiles 2017 HULU
Meeks Cutoff 2011 AMC PLUS
Bone Tomahawk 2015 $3.99 rental on PRIME or APPLE TV
The Sisters Brothers 2018 HULU
Old Henry 2021 HULU
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:32 pm to flvelo12
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Add to your already fine list.
3:10 to Yuma (2007)
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007) personal favorite
The Proposition (2005)
Appaloosa (2008)
The Hateful Eight (2015)
Slow West (2015)
The Salvation (2014)
The Ballad of Lefty Brown (2017)
Rango (2011) something different
No First Cow 2019?
IMDb
This post was edited on 2/25/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:47 pm to chinese58
News of the World last year .. was a little slow, but nicely done.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 2:58 pm to Meatball
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Why are western movies not made anymore?
White men were authoritarian figures.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 3:01 pm to Meatball
Power of the Dog is favored to win best picture
Posted on 2/25/22 at 3:44 pm to Grievous Angel
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Power of the Dog.
Should not be considered a Western. It was just a time-period piece of crap.
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:07 pm to Woolfman_8
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Same thing will happen with superhero movies…. Eventually
Please hurry
Posted on 2/25/22 at 5:21 pm to Meatball
People are dying to make them. See: Rust.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:36 am to Meatball
How about Neo-Westerns? Wind River and Hell or High Water are a couple of my recent favorites.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 2:15 pm to RedRabbit
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Neo-Westerns?
Casey takes his cowboy hat off a bunch in The Killer Inside Me! Available on Prime, Apple TV, YouTube (all $3.99)
IMDb On Tubi and a $3.99 rental on Prime. Anyone seen this Canadian film Big Muddy?
Free on Vimeo Love The Hi-Lo Country!
Stream Rancho Deluxe on Prime or Vudu for $3.99.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:06 pm to JDPndahizzy
Last movie comes to mind i really loved was hell or high water. If that even qualifies.
But hey there's a miniseries on Netflix called Godless shite was so fire.
But hey there's a miniseries on Netflix called Godless shite was so fire.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:26 pm to iwantacooler
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People are dying to make them. See: Rust.
Didn't they change the name of it to "Trigger happy"?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:58 pm to kywildcatfanone
I only saw about half at my buddi3s house but i completely forgot.
Harder they fall. Hell of a cast of black actors that i enjoy
Darius from Atlanta. All the main ones on that show seem to be doing very well in their careeer.
Harder they fall. Hell of a cast of black actors that i enjoy
Darius from Atlanta. All the main ones on that show seem to be doing very well in their careeer.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 7:00 pm
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