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re: Why the US military isn’t ready for a civil war

Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:16 pm to
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They aren’t going to go around bombing right wing militia groups.

And your interpretation of Sleepy's comments that you'd need F-15s and nukes to take on the US Government?
Posted by John Gotti
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:24 pm to
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They aren’t going to go around bombing right wing militia groups.




Posted by Azranod
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:24 pm to
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The initial weapons are already here. Afghanistan lasted 20 years. Those guns won't last that long.


You are r_t_rded! The majority of the military, police, and truck drivers are Conservative/Right leaning.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:38 pm to
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The U.S. Military couldn't defeat the Viet Cong or a bunch of stone age tribesman in Afghanistan.


This is so ignorant. The VC and those "stone age tribesman" were battle hardened warriors with decades of experience before the US even showed up. 50x harder than any tacticool wannabe insurgent that thinks theyre an operator because they can field strip their PSA AR.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:47 pm to
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You’re so cocky.


because most people on here are stupid.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:48 pm to
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The initial weapons are already here. Afghanistan lasted 20 years. Those guns won't last that long.


That’s funny my M1 garand assembled in 1943 and seeing action in WW2 will most certainly function the same as it did then. Not to mention those patriots that are successful in their skirmishes are getting rearmed with the latest and greatest.
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:50 pm to
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50x harder than any tacticool wannabe insurgent that thinks theyre an operator because they can field strip their PSA AR.


Doesn’t take a lifetime for a man to become hardened… battle toughness is more necessity of the current situation than anything.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:06 pm to
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The VC and those "stone age tribesman" were battle hardened warriors with decades of experience before the US even showed up.

Do you think the USA started WW2 with a massive standing army, or do you think they had to gather up and train inexperienced farm baws and sales clerks in a hurry? It don't take long to learn how not to die.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:14 pm to
A modern civil war in the US would be far from conventional, even modern conventional, and would be much more like what the last 15 years in the ME have looked like.

It would be seemingly spontaneous attacks from lone wolves or small groups who blend into the crowd until the moment of attack, and then disappear right back into the crowd. Guerrilla tactics would reign. And sniper fire would be unlike anything ever witnessed, anywhere. A lot of baws who would take up arms to defend their homes, are accomplished deer hunters who have no issue dropping a whitetail at 300-400 yards with a bolt action 6.5 Creedmoor.

It would be ugly for all involved.

I would also factor in the amount of military veterans who would bring leadership to the "rebel" forces. Also, the psychology in play against the military, turning their weapons on their own families, friends, brothers, sisters... and that's where drone strikes would favor them- much easier to strike someone to death when you're sitting in a room looking at a computer screen and not looking them in the eye in the heat of combat.

A modern American Civil War would change everything, forever.
Posted by lsu777
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:34 pm to
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A modern civil war in the US would be far from conventional, even modern conventional, and would be much more like what the last 15 years in the ME have looked like.

It would be seemingly spontaneous attacks from lone wolves or small groups who blend into the crowd until the moment of attack, and then disappear right back into the crowd. Guerrilla tactics would reign. And sniper fire would be unlike anything ever witnessed, anywhere. A lot of baws who would take up arms to defend their homes, are accomplished deer hunters who have no issue dropping a whitetail at 300-400 yards with a bolt action 6.5 Creedmoor.

It would be ugly for all involved.

I would also factor in the amount of military veterans who would bring leadership to the "rebel" forces. Also, the psychology in play against the military, turning their weapons on their own families, friends, brothers, sisters... and that's where drone strikes would favor them- much easier to strike someone to death when you're sitting in a room looking at a computer screen and not looking them in the eye in the heat of combat.

A modern American Civil War would change everything, forever.



this is what people on both sides do not understand.

civil war this time is not like back then...essentially our lives are over. not we fight for 5 years and spend 5 rebuilding.....every person in the nation will have his life destroyed completely.

father on son, brother on brother...have to be a fricking retard to wishcasting that.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37711 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:08 pm to
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This is so ignorant. The VC and those "stone age tribesman" were battle hardened warriors with decades of experience before the US even showed up. 50x harder than any tacticool wannabe insurgent that thinks theyre an operator because they can field strip their PSA AR.




Point went straight over your head didn't it?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:10 pm to
I don’t think that’s the case.

IMO it would be more a purge of those who hold power over us.

Some guy, or girl, you thought was a run of the mill citizen taking out someone like Vindman or McCabe. Then floating back into their boring flyover life.

Repeated. 1000s of times.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:19 pm to
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I don’t think that’s the case.

IMO it would be more a purge of those who hold power over us.

Some guy, or girl, you thought was a run of the mill citizen taking out someone like Vindman or McCabe. Then floating back into their boring flyover life.

Repeated. 1000s of times.


see thats the thing though its not.

everyone thinks thats what it will be...but do you honestly think they are going to just not use the MIC and intellegent communities?

they would go after everyone they even think is involved and then the rebels would cut off supply lines as described above and all frickign hell breaks loose.

you are talking the end of our nation for atleast a decade prolly more along the lines of a quarter century and every ones lifes ruined.

stop romanticisizin it
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Doesn’t take a lifetime for a man to become hardened… battle toughness is more necessity of the current situation than anything.


It's more experience than anything. Civilian insurgents can have 100% determination to fight but once their buddy gets his head blown off right next to him that all flies out of the window.

However, the next time it happens it wont be as shocking and that builds over time and experience into being "battle hardened". The only people in this country that are battle hardened are servicemen and vets that have combat experience.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 5:14 pm to
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Civilian insurgents can have 100% determination to fight but once their buddy gets his head blown off right next to him that all flies out of the window.


I'll revisit my earliest post on this thread. Someone may be willing to sacrifice their lives for their country to "fight insurgents", but how many of them are willing to sacrifice their FAMILIES' lives?

If I was truly in a "win at all costs" mentality in a civil war, the first people I would go after are the families of key military leaders, judges, politicians or any ally of what I saw was a corrupt government. Sure the Biden and Harris familes get Secret Service protection...but Milley's family doesn't. Austin's family doesn't. Fauci's family doesn't...

The first time Jen Psaki starts running her mouth after this kicks off and her 5-year old gets abducted from school...how long will she believe in the cause?

If the left keeps portraying their political enemies as less than human, how long until the other side does the same?
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 5:16 pm
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