Can we talk about pre-workout and even protein powder on this board?

I personally don’t disagree about the pre-workout. Some people like the feeling and that’s alright. I’ll take it every now and then.

I do typically need the protein supplements when I’m only having 2 meals per day.

But I get what you’re saying more of a want, not need in most cases.

sup Peck?

I used preworkout until about a year ago. I stopped after my gym hiatus when I had covid.

What I realized when I went back to the gym was that the preworkout did nothing for me as far as more energy or "focus" it was simply part of the routine.

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Big Ole Baw

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You’re one of the worst of the Q4 2021 accounts.

I go to the gym very early. I want to take a little pre to the mouth and wash it down with water. I'm not sipping on some hot arse coffee to get 50mg of caffeine. I've also tried cold brew, but that wasn't any better.

Sleep is a great thing, but not everyone is on the same schedule or has the same things going on.

Preworkout is safe if you're not a jackass. Don't buy things with proprietary blends where you don't even know what you're taking. Also, don't go over 1 scoop, then you're playing with fire.

I've been taking a preworkout for years. I look for the BCAAs and creatine, as well as the amount of caffeine included in it. I rather have it all in one scoop of preworkout instead of having to buy a jug of each.

Do I think preworkout is going to add 100lbs to my bench and give me a sick 8 pack abs? No, because I'm not an idiot. But the science behind BCAAs and creatine are there, and if my preworkout wants to throw some other shite in as well, then lets frickin go!

And when I was counting calories strictly, it was tough for me to hit my protein goals some days without a protein shake. Did I need it to hit the numbers every day? No. But it sure helps some of those days.

Everyone's body types and life styles are different, and for you to say what anyone else should or shouldn't be doing for their own fitness goals is asinine.

It’s dumb to lump preworkout all in one category. The key is to identify the ingredients you need and work with those. The ones I look for are caffeine (if needed), beta alanine, and creatine. All of those things with sleep and good diet/protein consumption can add value to your workouts on a daily basis. Good quality protein powder is a key for most people too since most people under eat protein.

I agree with on pre-workout. That being said, workout intensity should be driving factor.

If you’re a 2 minute rest between sets while you look at your phone and stick to machines, then you really don’t need it.

If your workouts are more intense and less social oriented, you may appreciate the boost at the end of that hour.


I disagree on protein. Been doing more calorie deficit and added protein because i wanted to mix it up. Started seeing much better results in fat loss with added protein.


Like with all things fitness, individual body composition determines the effectiveness of protein/pre workouts.

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And you likely don't need protein powder, just eat some meat and you will easily hit your needed protein goals.

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Sincerely sorry for your slow metabolism but some of us physical specimens need the protein powder to put on weight.

Pre workout 100%. Not necessary. Especially dry scooping which is fricking retarded and these fake arse YouTube fitness Pepa just make it worse. But they do have se benefits.

As for as protein you are way off. You are not getting 200+ grams of protein with food when you are trying to eat sub 1800 calories.