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What grounds does Baylor have to sue?

Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:37 pm
Posted by tonydatigah
Youngsville, La
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:37 pm
They didn't have an interest to sue when Neb and Col left so what basis do they have now? To me A&M/SEC could counter with why no lawsuit last year.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:49 pm to
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They didn't have an interest to sue when Neb and Col left so what basis do they have now?


The SEC's best defense is that it was pursued by aTm, not the other way around. In addition it can argue that the common course of dealing in college athletics is that coaching and conference contracts are regularly broken and that this is why buyouts are included in them. The SEC can also legitimately claim that if the Big 12 collapses, it did not cause that.....Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, OU, OSU, and Tech all leaving caused that. Unclean hands is another issue facing Baylor and any other Bog 12 program. It's hard to credibly argue the SEC was in the wrong for accepting aTm when the Big 12 had already approached Arkansas before aTm was ever admitted.
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 12:37 am
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1695 posts
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:57 pm to
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The SEC's best defense is that it was pursued by aTm, not the other way around. In addition it can argue that the common course of dealing in college athletics is that coaching and conference contracts are regularly broken and that this is why buyouts are included in them. The SEC can also legitimately claim that if the Big 12 collapses, it did not cause that.....Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, OU, OSU, and Tech all leaving caused that. Unclean hands is another issue facing Baylor and any other Bog 12 program. It's hard to credibly argue the SEC was in the wrong for accepting aTm when the Big 12 had already approached Arkansas before aTm was never admitted.


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Only damages Baylor is entitled to is their share of $ A&M is required to pay as penalty for withdrawal under the conference agreement.
Posted by redassag12
college station,tx
Member since Dec 2010
53 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 12:02 am to
They dont have any grounds they are just being baylor
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
Adrift Off the Spanish Main
Member since Aug 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 12:11 am to
Starr's only excuse is that the preacher held him underwater for too long.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 12:32 am to
zero, A&M has sovereign immunity, like all Texas Schools. Just ask Mike Leach about it. Can not be sued in contract period by any private entity.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 12:39 am to
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zero, A&M has sovereign immunity, like all Texas Schools. Just ask Mike Leach about it. Can not be sued in contract period by any private entity.


Baylor has no intention of suing aTm. They are considering a suit against the SEC (which is a complete bluff IMO).
Posted by tonydatigah
Youngsville, La
Member since Aug 2007
638 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 7:51 am to
But what basis do they have to sue? Are they going to sue because they will have no choice but to be in a mid major conference now? I am sure they aren't happy about what is happening. It is just like if the girl they were madly in love with broke up with them, they wouldn't be happy about it but you can't file a lawsuit on it. What is their reason for a lawsuit? Last time I checked being shown that you are insignificant is not a basis for a lawsuit.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3288 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:25 am to
A&m should go independent for 1 week, then get picked up by the SEC, this should prevent Legal action vs SEC.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:36 am to
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But what basis do they have to sue? Are they going to sue because they will have no choice but to be in a mid major conference now?
I think their reasoning (although I doubt it would hold up in court) would be that the SEC is interferring with what they consider a legally binding contract - the contract signed by the remaining Big 12 schools around this time last year.

The 10 schools signed a contract to continue the conference and share revenues of a certain amount. Based on those revenue projections, BU (and possibly other schools) began capital improvement programs (building new/renovating existing facilities). They feel that by Aggie leaving, the Conference falls apart and the revenue stream disappears, so the funding for those capital improvements goes away as well.

I am assuming that their take on the SEC is that knowing there was a new contract n place, the SEC should have told aTm "no". However, by giving them a place to land, the SEC has facilitated aTm's exit from the Big 12, leading to the collapse of the conference, leading to loss of revenue.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9275 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:40 am to
Just a little chihuahua nipping at rottwieler... Waste of time.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:44 am to
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They didn't have an interest to sue when Neb and Col left so what basis do they have now?


Just like everything in life, it is all about $

When Neb & Col left, the same TV contracts stayed in effect so ten teams split the $ that 12 teams used to split. Baylor made more $ because of Neb & Col leaving.

The Big 12 TV contracts become void the instant league membership drops below 10 teams so Baylor takes a serious hammer when A&M leaves.

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They dont have any grounds they are just being baylor


Slive is a smart man and an attorney. You think he put the condition on A&M and is asking for the waivers for absolutely no reason?

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A&M has sovereign immunity


Baylor never threatened A&M with a lawsuit. It threatened the SEC and Slive personally.......

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A&m should go independent for 1 week, then get picked up by the SEC, this should prevent Legal action vs SEC.


Yeah......Baylor's lawyers would never pick up on that. Jesus Christ........



This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 8:45 am
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:43 am to
Can they sue on the grounds of being butthurt? I mean, you can file suit for practically anything nowadays.
This post was edited on 9/8/11 at 9:48 am
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 9/8/11 at 9:45 am to
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Yeah......Baylor's lawyers would never pick up on that. Jesus Christ........




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