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re: So, if Missou is our Perm-Cross, who is our T-day weekend Rival?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:11 pm to sfury
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:11 pm to sfury
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Well that's not going to be happening soon if at all sorry to say. Kansas took their ball and went home when we left and declared themselves the winner of the Border war. The Kansas official line is the rivalry is dead because it belongs in the Big 12.
Stop thinking short term. People have short term memories let it play out and it will benefit all in the SEC.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:16 pm to CajunFootball
quote:Arkansas, but only because I live in Houston and have many Aggie friends and want to attend the games.
Posted by CajunFootball If you had to choose between playing Arkansas or Texas A&M as the last game. Who would you pick?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 4:37 pm to stapuffmarshy
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move Arky up, game means nothing to many of us
The Battle of the Boot is my reason for living...
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:05 pm to stapuffmarshy
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I'll take A&M last game of the year
move Arky up, game means nothing to many of us
As much as they have tried to create a rivalry here... It really just doesn't exist.
Texas A&M and LSU have history, and common background, etc. College Station and Baton Rouge are close enough.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 5:12 pm to stapuffmarshy
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I'll take A&M last game of the year
move Arky up, game means nothing to many of us
True and while at it move the game to Fayetteville. I went to the Arkansas vs LSU game in 1997, by far the most boring LSU game I've ever been to. Day game on a Friday during thanksgiving weekend sucked.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 8:53 pm to bayou2003
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True and while at it move the game to Fayetteville. I went to the Arkansas vs LSU game in 1997, by far the most boring LSU game I've ever been to. Day game on a Friday during thanksgiving weekend sucked.
Holy cow!
Talk about not even remotely the same school, campus or city anymore..
There has been a 35% population increase to the entire NWA area in that time period. The football stadium grew by 25% and the University student body skyrocketed.
Dickson Street isn't even close to the same when I was in school there in 2001. This is not even close to the same Arkansas school or campus you visited.
Edit: I thought you meant the 1992 game in Fayetteville. Back then Fayetteville was literally in the middle of nowhere compared to today.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 8:55 pm to TigerMattSTL
The tough thing about playing anytime on Thanksgiving weekend, for a school situated in a true college town (as most SEC schools are) is getting fans to either stick around, or come back to town for a football game. If Missouri were to play Vanderbilt (the only currrent SEC team that doesn't have a traditional game on that weekend, as long as you consider Ark-LSU fitting that definition) on the Saturday after Thanksgiving, what kind of crowd do you think would show up? Students wouldn't be coming back to campus for that one, for sure. Even A&M would be tough, as you'd get absolutely no Aggie fans to travel to Columbia for a game on that weekend.
Now, on the other hand, if Missouri were to play Arkansas, I think the proximity would really help with the gate. Even if some Missouri fans don't show, the proximity will probably result in a large Arkansas turnout.
If A&M can't work a deal to get LSU on Thanksgiving, then I think we probably shouldn't play anyone that weekend, but that would hardly be ideal from a scheduling standpoint (don't want your open date coming at the end of the season).
Now, on the other hand, if Missouri were to play Arkansas, I think the proximity would really help with the gate. Even if some Missouri fans don't show, the proximity will probably result in a large Arkansas turnout.
If A&M can't work a deal to get LSU on Thanksgiving, then I think we probably shouldn't play anyone that weekend, but that would hardly be ideal from a scheduling standpoint (don't want your open date coming at the end of the season).
Posted on 11/8/11 at 9:03 pm to twk
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The tough thing about playing anytime on Thanksgiving weekend, for a school situated in a true college town (as most SEC schools are) is getting fans to either stick around, or come back to town for a football game. If Missouri were to play Vanderbilt (the only currrent SEC team that doesn't have a traditional game on that weekend, as long as you consider Ark-LSU fitting that definition) on the Saturday after Thanksgiving, what kind of crowd do you think would show up? Students wouldn't be coming back to campus for that one, for sure. Even A&M would be tough, as you'd get absolutely no Aggie fans to travel to Columbia for a game on that weekend.
Now, on the other hand, if Missouri were to play Arkansas, I think the proximity would really help with the gate. Even if some Missouri fans don't show, the proximity will probably result in a large Arkansas turnout.
If A&M can't work a deal to get LSU on Thanksgiving, then I think we probably shouldn't play anyone that weekend, but that would hardly be ideal from a scheduling standpoint (don't want your open date coming at the end of the season).
As it sits now we will play Missouri 1 time every 12 years unless we go to a 9 game conference schedule.
Mizzou is in the middle of the entire state than should not have a problem getting back to campus for Thanksgiving.
Regardless when Mizzou and Arkansas play it will be a sell out by Arkansas. We dominated the away attendance at Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and had 10,000 at Bama.
We would do the same at TAMU if we didn't play in Dallas.
As I've stated the SEC wants Texas and TAMU to play Thanksgiving weekend like half the SEC does with out of conference games for the eyesballs which equal money.
TAMU and LSU should be a beginning conference game as it was played in the past. It's the same type setup Arkansas has with Alabama on the schedule first and LSU last.
Missouri needs to play Kansas again which is much closer (165 miles closer) than Arkansas and it will be good for the SEC that weekend.
Side Note: Little Rock, Ark is the same Distance to Baton Rouge as College Station. That is where the game is played while in Arkansas.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 10:54 pm to SunHog
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Holy cow!
Talk about not even remotely the same school, campus or city anymore..
There has been a 35% population increase to the entire NWA area in that time period. The football stadium grew by 25% and the University student body skyrocketed.
Dickson Street isn't even close to the same when I was in school there in 2001. This is not even close to the same Arkansas school or campus you visited.
Edit: I thought you meant the 1992 game in Fayetteville. Back then Fayetteville was literally in the middle of nowhere compared to today.
I just hate the Arkansas vs LSU game being on Thanksgiving weekend. I'd rather it be earlier in the season. I can imagine the atmosphere of Arkansas vs LSU on a Oct night in Baton Rouge or Fayetteville. It would be one of the better SEC games of the year. Friday day games after Thanksgiving sucks. Hopefully with the new teams/schedule they'll change that.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:32 pm to SunHog
quote:If A&M and Missouri are paired as cross divisional rivals, then yes, you're right, Missouri and Arkansas will only meet once every six years. But, I don't think the cross-over game has been settled quite yet. Arkansas and Missouri might still get paired up. There are pros and cons that will have to be hashed out.
As it sits now we will play Missouri 1 time every 12 years unless we go to a 9 game conference schedule.
Mizzou is in the middle of the entire state than should not have a problem getting back to campus for Thanksgiving.
Regardless when Mizzou and Arkansas play it will be a sell out by Arkansas. We dominated the away attendance at Ole Miss and Vanderbilt and had 10,000 at Bama.
We would do the same at TAMU if we didn't play in Dallas.
As I've stated the SEC wants Texas and TAMU to play Thanksgiving weekend like half the SEC does with out of conference games for the eyesballs which equal money.
TAMU and LSU should be a beginning conference game as it was played in the past. It's the same type setup Arkansas has with Alabama on the schedule first and LSU last.
Missouri needs to play Kansas again which is much closer (165 miles closer) than Arkansas and it will be good for the SEC that weekend.
Side Note: Little Rock, Ark is the same Distance to Baton Rouge as College Station. That is where the game is played while in Arkansas.
If the league stays with an 8 game schedule, I think it's a foregone conclusion that A&M will want to move the Arkansas game back to campus, rather than have only 3 conference home game every other year--particularly once we complete our renovations to Kyle Field. The only way I see A&M being willing to keep the game at Jerrywold is if the SEC goes to a 9 game schedule, and the neutral site allows us both to play 4-4-1 every year.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 11:57 am to twk
I've heard Florida was gonna be our cross-div rival.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 12:42 pm to SunHog
quote:check your math, you'll have them at home only once every 12 years, but you'll play them twice
As it sits now we will play Missouri 1 time every 12 years unless we go to a 9 game conference schedule.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:17 pm to twk
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If A&M and Missouri are paired as cross divisional rivals, then yes, you're right, Missouri and Arkansas will only meet once every six years.
That would suck. Arkansas would be Mizzou's biggest rival in the SEC considering the states border each other, a lot of Arkansas Alum in Missouri, etc. Man I can't wait til the schedules are released.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:28 pm to twk
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The tough thing about playing anytime on Thanksgiving weekend, for a school situated in a true college town (as most SEC schools are) is getting fans to either stick around, or come back to town for a football game.
It would be so much better if they just played the game on Saturdays
Thanksgiving is when you have family visits and obligations, by Saturday you can put that aside and enjoy a football game
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:15 pm to Smoke Ring
If you wanted a big time Thanksgiving rival you should have stayed in the Big 12. This is part of the consequence of leaving the conference where all of your rivals play. Did you guys just assume Texas was going to kiss your asses and keep playing a team that wants nothing to do with them?
Posted on 11/11/11 at 7:33 am to Monticello
We want a marquee game on Thanksgiving. We really don't give a shite if they play us. We just want to be sure that everybody knows that it is not our fault the game is going away.
Playing LSU instead would be the icing on the cake for us. They are a MUCH better opponent anyway. Longhorn butthurt would be off the charts, because instead of getting "blackballed" we upgraded the T-day game.......AND IT WAS NOT OUR FAULT THE RIVALRY ENDED.
Playing LSU instead would be the icing on the cake for us. They are a MUCH better opponent anyway. Longhorn butthurt would be off the charts, because instead of getting "blackballed" we upgraded the T-day game.......AND IT WAS NOT OUR FAULT THE RIVALRY ENDED.
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