re: Since Expansion to 16 Teams Seems Inevitable

Posted by Blakely Bimbo

Member since Dec 2010

1183 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:43 am to Grateful Reb

Probably end at 20 teams, but that will take a decade. We are headed toward mega conferences and away from NCAA influence. NCAA has lost credibility and won't be able to recover.

15 and 16 might be OK and Okie State cause the PAC Presidents are too elite to take OK State. May take a couple of years. 15 and 16 don't come from the ACC unless it starts to split at the seams.

Posted by LSUtah

Salt Lake City

Member since Feb 2011

872 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:50 am to Grateful Reb

North Carolina and Va Tech. Not sure of the politics behind it, but that would encompass the old South on a map and would be 2 quality additions...

Posted by MFV

Member since Oct 2008

907 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 10:13 am to LSUtah

quote:
North Carolina

Do not think this is realistic. First, they will not leave Duke. Second, they believe they are "too good" for the SEC (Academically and Socially speaking).

Posted by Falcon Punch

HCBAMF

Member since Sep 2011

420 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:00 am to MFV

FSU and Vag Tech

Posted by C

Houston

Member since Dec 2007

27819 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:13 am to coloradoBengal

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3 pod opponents, 1 perm non pod opponent, 3 rotating non pod opponents

No way we reduce down to 7 games after being at 9. Go to 10 game schedule. two divisions (7 games) and 3 rotating in other division based on schedule strength like the NFL does. Make SoS a tie breaker for conference championship selection.

Posted by molsusports

Member since Jul 2004

36110 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 11:33 am to Grateful Reb

the two who you would like and might be obtainable would be something like va tech and nc state

yes both have a big ACC buyout attached (20 million) but that would be nothing compared to the money generated by the new conference.

it would expand the SEC's geographic footprint in one of the most rational possible ways (north carolina and virginia/maryland)

But I doubt NC State or Va Tech is able to make the move - esp va tech may be stuck with virginia having recently strong armed their way into the ACC over virginia's original objections. North Carolina would obviously be a more highly coveted North Carolina option but they IMO are not leaving the ACC basketball partners they have in Duke, Wake, NC State, Maryland etc just to get sodomized on the football field

Obviously Texas is a pipe dream (too arrogant, not interested in the competition and have the LHN) and unlikely to pull teh trigger but if the SEC landed Texas and OU that would be another home run that made geographic sense

Possible 16 team SEC conference if Va Tech/NC State joined

West:
LSU
A&M
Arky
Ole Miss

Northwest:
Bama
Auburn
Missouri
Miss State

East:
Florida
Va Tech
USC
Kentucky

NorthEast:
Tennessee
UGA
North Carolina
Vandy

Possible 16 team SEC if OU/Texas joined:

West:
LSU
Texas
A&M
Ole Miss

Northwest:
OU
Arkansas
Missouri
Miss State

MidSouth:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vandy

SouthEast:
Florida
UGA
USC
Kentucky

FWIW neither of these seems remotely possible but both would make boatloads of money for teh SEC and all of their member schools. And both proposals really also depend on teh NCAA allowing a two round playoff to determine a conference championship

This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 11:37 am

Posted by tccdc

Washington, DC

Member since Sep 2007

3573 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:20 pm to molsusports

I do not see VT leaving the ACC unless Swofford and the dolts from the state of North Carolina continue to push for a North/South division split.

VT has told the ACC they do see a division of Pitt, BC, Cuse, MD, UVA, and most likely WF as their divisional opponents.

VT needs its games against GT and Miami to continue to expose us to the South.

If you see that split, the chances of VT leaving are greatly enhanced.

As for the WVu fan, congrats on your RIFLE team championships...must have been what got you into the Big 12

Posted by RockChalkTiger

A Little Bit South of Saskatoon

Member since May 2009

10326 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:48 pm to Grateful Reb

UNC and UVA. Football is fine. Need to help hoops and (to a lesser extent) baseball.

Posted by SwatMitchell

Austin, TX

Member since Jan 2005

2312 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:05 pm to RockChalkTiger

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UNC and UVA. Football is fine. Need to help hoops and (to a lesser extent) baseball.

Absolutely - plus they add large, growing TV markets and quality academics. Football is, and will be, fine.

Posted by hoginthesw

DFW

Member since Sep 2009

5329 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:13 pm to MFV

quote:
Pod 1 Kansas K State Arky Mizzou

Posted by MissouriFan

St. Louis, MO

Member since Oct 2011

90 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:50 pm to hoginthesw

If they can find a way to ditch Okie State and K-State OU and kU would be fun.

Otherwise a VT and NC State combo would be cool as well.

But I hope we stay at 14.

Posted by TigerDeacon

West Monroe, LA

Member since Sep 2003

29297 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 4:57 pm to MFV

quote:
Pod 1

Kansas
K State
Arky
Mizzou

Are you high? Who would watch any of these games outside of the states they are located?

Posted by Alltheway Tigers!

Baton Rouge

Member since Jan 2004

7135 posts

Posted on 11/9/11 at 9:51 pm to Grateful Reb

NC St.

Va Tech.

Grab two to three more top 30 TV markets.

NC won't leave Duke.