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Question for Arkansas older fanbase.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:19 pm
What exactly happen between you guys and Texas and were you guys excited about joining the SEC at the time or kind of one of those "Well we have no where else to go?" type of attitude?
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:35 pm to Duzz
We started the this entire super conference talk 20 years ago. Frank Broyles (Our AD and legendary coach) mentioned to the SEC heads, on the golf course, if they ever wanted to expand Arkansas would join. This would be 1988'ish.
While pro sports were eating up the smaller schools fan bases of the SWC.. (SMU - Dallas Cowboys, Mavs) (Houston -Oilers Astros) (TCU - Cowboys - Rangers - Mavs) etc...
Frank was brilliant and initiated the move and the rest is what you are seeing today 20 years later.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:38 pm to SunHog
The officiating in the SWC is what broke the camel's back as the Longhorn Network was what drove TAMU away today.
Back then not a single Ref from Arkansas could officiate the Texas vs Arkansas yearly game.
You can tell Texas was pissed Arkansas left.
1990 Ark vs Texas Halftime show.
Texas vs Ark Halftime Show 1990 Lunny Tunes
Back then not a single Ref from Arkansas could officiate the Texas vs Arkansas yearly game.
You can tell Texas was pissed Arkansas left.
1990 Ark vs Texas Halftime show.
Texas vs Ark Halftime Show 1990 Lunny Tunes
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:58 pm to SunHog
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We started the this entire super conference talk 20 years ago
Delusion at it's finest...
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:16 pm to GerryDiNardo
Well we did start this along with South Carolina. At the time A&M and Texas was to go SEC as well but Baylor got in the way. Baylor had a lot more political clout back then. Now they only have Kenneth Starr.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:18 pm to GerryDiNardo
Um no. Fact. I'm no frank Broyles fan, but I'll give him this. He saw the future 20 years ago and dared to give the tsippers the bird. Something OU and the gaggies have had trouble doing until now. So no. Not delusional.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:39 pm to cityhog
vid is awesome
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:44 pm to SunHog
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We started the this entire super conference talk
Ya'll are fricking irrelevent in college football.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:51 pm to SunHog
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Frank was brilliant and initiated the move and the rest is what you are seeing today 20 years later.
You are arkie fans are so funny. Frank didn't start the superconference trend. Penn State joined the big ten in 1990 and arkie and sc joined in 1991. Roy Kramer and Jim Delany started it.
Plus Frank never learned how to pronounce athlete. He pronounced it ath-a-lete.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Um no. Fact. I'm no frank Broyles fan, but I'll give him this. He saw the future 20 years ago and dared to give the tsippers the bird. Something OU and the gaggies have had trouble doing until now. So no. Not delusional.
Amen. Epic post
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:22 pm to GerryDiNardo
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Delusion at it's finest...
You can believe whatever you like. Frank Broyles is from Georgia Tech and a Member at Augusta National this is exactly how it went down. He's always been well connected in SEC country long before the Hogs went to the SEC.
He turned down the Georgia Tech Job to stay at Arkansas.
Read his book.
"I knew there were going to be changes," he said. "We had to protect our status, our reputation."
With his president's blessings, Broyles said he discussed his plans with Texas and A&M, which both showed "great interest," then initiated talks with the SEC in 1987 or '88."
LSU fans suck at using google.
LINK
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:17 pm to SunHog
Arkansas had nothing to do with today's super-conferences you delusional morons. Arky switched conferences 20 years ago and helped put a conference to 12 teams, not 16. Just because Frank Broyles takes credit for something that failed to come to fluition in the 80s doesn't mean Arkansas has anything to do with today's super-conference landscape.
If the lot of Arky fans on exhibit on the expansion board are anywhere near an accurate representation of your fan base then holy shite you guys suck.. You guys are trying so hard to be relevant at anything... grasping at straws... it's sad really.
If the lot of Arky fans on exhibit on the expansion board are anywhere near an accurate representation of your fan base then holy shite you guys suck.. You guys are trying so hard to be relevant at anything... grasping at straws... it's sad really.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:48 pm to GerryDiNardo
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GerryDinardo
Question for Arkansas older fanbase.
Arkansas had nothing to do with today's super-conferences you delusional morons. Arky switched conferences 20 years ago and helped put a conference to 12 teams, not 16. Just because Frank Broyles takes credit for something that failed to come to fluition in the 80s doesn't mean Arkansas has anything to do with today's super-conference landscape.
If the lot of Arky fans on exhibit on the expansion board are anywhere near an accurate representation of your fan base then holy shite you guys suck.. You guys are trying so hard to be relevant at anything... grasping at straws... it's sad really.
Who said anything about today's realignment, lol, and Arkansas being directly involved? I have no idea where you got that...
Nice try saying anyone said jack about Arkansas and today's super conferences,
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:52 pm to SunHog
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We started the this entire super conference talk 20 years ago.
You said it... and clearly that's why I said you were delusional. You wanted someone to give you recognition for getting the ball rolling because maybe this makes you Arky fans feel relevant or something, I don't know. But let's get it clear.. you didn't start anything.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 9/12/11 at 11:58 pm to GerryDiNardo
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GerryDinardo
Question for Arkansas older fanbase.
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We started the this entire super conference talk 20 years ago.
You said it... and clearly that's why I said you were delusional. You wanted someone to give you recognition for getting the ball rolling because maybe this makes you Arky fans feel relevant or something, I don't know. But let's get it clear.. you didn't start anything.
I'm sorry you don't understand how Arkansas initiated the talks with the SEC has Frank pointed out.
Again this has nothing todo with Arkansas and SEC expansion today, nice try.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:09 am to SunHog
SunHog:
KaiserHog:
CityHog:
Okay so you're arguing that no Hog fan on this thread is taking credit for today's super-conference inevitability?
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We started the this entire super conference talk 20 years ago.
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Frank was brilliant and initiated the move and the rest is what you are seeing today 20 years later.
KaiserHog:
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Well we did start this along with South Carolina. At the time A&M and Texas was to go SEC as well but Baylor got in the way. Baylor had a lot more political clout back then. Now they only have Kenneth Starr.
CityHog:
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Um no. Fact. I'm no frank Broyles fan, but I'll give him this. He saw the future 20 years ago
Okay so you're arguing that no Hog fan on this thread is taking credit for today's super-conference inevitability?
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:10 am to SunHog
Dude...
I have no dog in this fight, but your quote sure makes it seem like you're trying to imply that Arkansas somehow triggered what is now going on regarding conference expansion.
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We started the this entire super conference talk 20 years ago.
I have no dog in this fight, but your quote sure makes it seem like you're trying to imply that Arkansas somehow triggered what is now going on regarding conference expansion.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:13 am to Duzz
There was no internet.
The first announcment most fans heard about it was in the news when the SEC announced it was going to expand and Arkansas "might be" one of the teams.
I think most fans were excited about the possibilities.
When it was first announced, it was going to be up to 4 teams joining the SEC. At first, I don't think most thought it would be us and South Carolina.
Most fans probably thought it would be us, and Texas and A&M. The Texas schools not joining was a bit of a surprise.
I think the average fan didn't "see it coming" but when it was announced, most felt like it was the right move.
It played out over a few months from the time of the first announcement of it as a possibility until it was officially announced we were joining. I don't think most fans realized exactly how doomed the SWC was at the time. And none of the Texas school fans realized it.
It was a different era and a different deal altogether than what is happening now.
The first announcment most fans heard about it was in the news when the SEC announced it was going to expand and Arkansas "might be" one of the teams.
I think most fans were excited about the possibilities.
When it was first announced, it was going to be up to 4 teams joining the SEC. At first, I don't think most thought it would be us and South Carolina.
Most fans probably thought it would be us, and Texas and A&M. The Texas schools not joining was a bit of a surprise.
I think the average fan didn't "see it coming" but when it was announced, most felt like it was the right move.
It played out over a few months from the time of the first announcement of it as a possibility until it was officially announced we were joining. I don't think most fans realized exactly how doomed the SWC was at the time. And none of the Texas school fans realized it.
It was a different era and a different deal altogether than what is happening now.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:17 am to wmr
Additionally, the idea of fans "having a voice" in decisions like this didn't exist in 1990. There was basically no forum for any fan to express his views outside writing a letter to the editor. There was no mass push for or against. There simply wasn't a forum for it. The idea at the time was "In Frank We Trust" and people just didn't feel like there was any difference to be made by a fan.
We took what we were given, and it was preferable in many ways. If you took a poll today, I doubt you'd find more than 5% of fans who think it wasn't the right move. And that 5% would all be over the age of 50.
We took what we were given, and it was preferable in many ways. If you took a poll today, I doubt you'd find more than 5% of fans who think it wasn't the right move. And that 5% would all be over the age of 50.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:18 am to SunHog
Y'all (non-arky) fans do realize that "superconferences" are what we have today by 20 years ago standards. The Arkansas guys are nOT talking about today's expansions but stuff back then. Back in the early 90's when the first expansion took place, there was talk about superconferences and Arkansas may very well have initiated that via broyles.
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