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re: LSU's new permanent East opponent: South Carolina?
Posted on 10/18/11 at 12:47 pm to Nuts4LSU
Posted on 10/18/11 at 12:47 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Well, first of all, it's not just Bama, but Bama and Tennessee, so there's two votes right off the bat. Also, I've heard that Vanderbilt is opposed to expansion altogether and will vote against inviting any more teams under any circumstances, so that's three. Technically, the remaining nine would be enough, but Slive has indicated that he wants more than just the bare-bones minimum votes required before we add another team.
That doesn't mean Bama is holding the SEC hostage. You're just asking Bama and UT to pretend to be okay with something they're clearly not okay with.
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Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:01 pm to ohiovol
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That doesn't mean Bama is holding the SEC hostage. You're just asking Bama and UT to pretend to be okay with something they're clearly not okay with.
Mike Slive is a slimeball. He will do whatever Bama wants and will cave in the end.
Right now he can force the issue, but he doesn't want to. Why not? Because he knows where his bread is buttered and doesn't want to piss off the SEC big boys.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:04 pm to ohiovol
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That doesn't mean Bama is holding the SEC hostage. You're just asking Bama and UT to pretend to be okay with something they're clearly not okay with
Well, first of all, I'm not the one who said anybody was holding anybody hostage. But, the simple truth is that having 14 teams in two divisions, with only 8 conference games to play, means inter-divisional rivalries can't be played every year without totally fricking up the whole conference schedule. Anybody with sense knew that going into this. If you were "clearly not okay with" getting rid of annual inter-divisional rivalries, then you should have voted against expansion in the first place. It was a choice between tradition and money, and the SEC (including Tennessee and Alabama) chose money. Insisting now, after the fact, on preserving tradition is just fricking things up. If you want two separate conferences whose teams never play each other except the conference CG, then by all means go get into that unfolding disaster between CUSA and MWC, but stop trying to frick up the SEC.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:23 pm to Nuts4LSU
Why wouldn't they just bump it to 9 conference games. I am sure the networks would push for that under a new tv agreement. 
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:35 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Right now he can force the issue, but he doesn't want to. Why not? Because he knows where his bread is buttered and doesn't want to piss off the SEC big boys.
That doesn't mean Bama is holding everyone hostage. If people want to blame someone, shouldn't they blame Slive.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:35 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Well, first of all, I'm not the one who said anybody was holding anybody hostage. But, the simple truth is that having 14 teams in two divisions, with only 8 conference games to play, means inter-divisional rivalries can't be played every year without totally fricking up the whole conference schedule. Anybody with sense knew that going into this. If you were "clearly not okay with" getting rid of annual inter-divisional rivalries, then you should have voted against expansion in the first place. It was a choice between tradition and money, and the SEC (including Tennessee and Alabama) chose money. Insisting now, after the fact, on preserving tradition is just fricking things up. If you want two separate conferences whose teams never play each other except the conference CG, then by all means go get into that unfolding disaster between CUSA and MWC, but stop trying to frick up the SEC.
Pretty sure the SEC will be just fine with UT and Bama continuing to play each other.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:38 pm to ohiovol
Just like Tennessee and Alabama would be fine not playing against each other in a conference game every year.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:39 pm to MOT
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Just like Tennessee and Alabama would be fine not playing against each other in a conference game every year.
We would certainly enjoy the season less.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:52 pm to ohiovol
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Pretty sure the SEC will be just fine with UT and Bama continuing to play each other.
It'll make money, but it won't be a conference in any meaningful sense. It'll be just like the old days up until the '70s when lots of SEC teams barely, if ever, played each other. Conference rivals in name only, we'll have more intense and frequent interaction with whatever non-conference teams we happen to be scheduling than we ever will with Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri and whichever of UF or USC we don't end up playing every year.
Of course, to the Bammers and Vols, it'll seem like they're playing everybody in the conference, since they have always thought and acted like they were the only two teams in it anyway.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:55 pm to ohiovol
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We would certainly enjoy the season less
God forbid the Vols should do without the enjoyment of Alabama's 10-foot cock up your asses every year from now through eternity. Much better to split the SEC into two separate conferences who never play each other.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 1:58 pm to Nuts4LSU
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God forbid the Vols should do without the enjoyment of Alabama's 10-foot cock up your asses every year from now through eternity. Much better to split the SEC into two separate conferences who never play each other.
Right. Alabama has just dominated Tennessee since expansion.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 2:07 pm to ohiovol
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Right. Alabama has just dominated Tennessee since expansion.
Well, as long as y'all feel like it's close, then I totally see splitting the SEC into separate conferences just to keep y'all happy. We could just kick y'all both out of the SEC and let you play each other 8 times a year in your own little 2-team "conference", and I bet y'all wouldn't even notice.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:09 pm to ohiovol
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We would certainly enjoy the season less
And the rest of the conference would enjoy seeing teams from the other division play in their stadium more frequently than once every 5 years (and soon to be even less).
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:17 pm to MOT
Honestly if it wasn't for stupid Boise and crap, and the powderpuff games everyone is used to with the stupid BCS system, and teams didn't get punished for one loss, there should be more 10 or more SEC games per year.
Honestly this is what it will get to when the ACC/SEC/B1G jumps to 16. At some point the BCS will be a 4/8 team tournament with automatic bids and such. If the SEC is a 16 team tournament and the 4 pod system ever comes to fruition this will solidify it. Why pay teams to come give yourself a cupcake schedule? If you have the best SEC record in your pod, you have a shot to win a National Title, and more SEC games = more money.
This is the way it should be anyway. Two OOC games per year tops.
Honestly this is what it will get to when the ACC/SEC/B1G jumps to 16. At some point the BCS will be a 4/8 team tournament with automatic bids and such. If the SEC is a 16 team tournament and the 4 pod system ever comes to fruition this will solidify it. Why pay teams to come give yourself a cupcake schedule? If you have the best SEC record in your pod, you have a shot to win a National Title, and more SEC games = more money.
This is the way it should be anyway. Two OOC games per year tops.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:18 pm to MOT
If y'all are going to be that bitter about continuing a tradition, I hear the Big? Is looking for teams..
Posted on 10/18/11 at 3:29 pm to ACT
The fact is no one is keeping you from your "tradition", but your "tradition" is keeping the conference from a sensible scheduling format.
This post was edited on 10/18/11 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:02 pm to JPLSU1981
Florida will be back. I'd just as soon not have them as a permanent opponent. We have Alabama, Arkansas, and Auburn already.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:07 pm to MOT
My point remains. Sorry you lack tradition.
Posted on 10/18/11 at 5:13 pm to ACT
Thank God Miss ST Kentucky will be preserved. Thats one 11 o'clock start we dont have to worry about getting
Posted on 10/19/11 at 8:04 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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Mike Slive is a slimeball.
Y'all destroyed one conference and are about to destroy another one and you have the nerve to call someone else a slimeball?
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