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With LSU's current roster, how many coaches would have fared worse than O?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:22 am
O brought new life to this team, but realistically any new coach would have brought new life. Sometimes a coach just gets stale, and a coaching change can bring some excitement.
We have the best O-line in the country (Per PFF - before you even begin, no o-line can block Bama), the best RB tandem in the country, NFL receivers, and finally a competent QB.
Our defense is littered with NFL talent, a few elite NFL talents, and is coordinated by one of the best young defensive minds in the country.
O hasn't done anything other than the baseline expectations- which isn't a bad thing. It just seems like an incredibly low standard to allow him to become head coach.
LSU is a top job in the country, with a rare stacked cupboard. When most top jobs like a Bama, OSU, USC, etc. open - it comes with a slight rebuilding project. The talent is already here to win big now. This should be enticing to any coach.
Yet, some seem content to settle for O after a small sample size of simply meeting expectations. It's the equivalent of a mid-level employee at Google being promoted to CEO after a scandal forced the current CEO to resign, having one quarter of performance where the company meets expectations and the Board going frick it we will stay with him.
We have the best O-line in the country (Per PFF - before you even begin, no o-line can block Bama), the best RB tandem in the country, NFL receivers, and finally a competent QB.
Our defense is littered with NFL talent, a few elite NFL talents, and is coordinated by one of the best young defensive minds in the country.
O hasn't done anything other than the baseline expectations- which isn't a bad thing. It just seems like an incredibly low standard to allow him to become head coach.
LSU is a top job in the country, with a rare stacked cupboard. When most top jobs like a Bama, OSU, USC, etc. open - it comes with a slight rebuilding project. The talent is already here to win big now. This should be enticing to any coach.
Yet, some seem content to settle for O after a small sample size of simply meeting expectations. It's the equivalent of a mid-level employee at Google being promoted to CEO after a scandal forced the current CEO to resign, having one quarter of performance where the company meets expectations and the Board going frick it we will stay with him.
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:23 am to Tigerfan56
we'd have the same record even with Les, although admittedly the wins would have been uglier.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:24 am to Tigerfan56
Les Miles for sure
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:26 am to Lester Earl
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Les Miles for sure
Being better than Les Miles (in his current state) is a pathetically low bar to set for a job like this.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:This.
we'd have the same record even with Les, although admittedly the wins would have been uglier.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
Les became a toxic person to the program. They removed the cancer when they fired him. Virtually anyone else would have also won the games we have won since he left.we had a decided talent advantage against every team on our schedule this season save 1.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:36 am to Tigerfan56
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Yet, some seem content to settle for O after a small sample size of simply meeting expectations.
Are you seriously saying that after the 2-2 start you expected LSU to go 6-1 down the stretch with Miles behind the wheel. If you answer is NO - like everyone else thought - then Coach Oeaux has exceeded expectations.
People on this board absolutely make me laugh, probably because more than 80% of the posters on this board have never played a down of competitive football in their life!!!! What Coach Oeaux has done since he took over, and also at USC when he took over, is remarkable. Now does that mean he is the best qualified to get the permanent job, I am not saying that. But what he has done for our school is incredible and we should be extremely appreciative. Who in the hell after a 2-2 thought would have said we are the front runner to make the Sugar Bowl this year! Not a fricking one of us, including me. And if you say that you thought we would be then you sir are a liar!
Again I am not saying that Coach Oeaux is the best candidate for the job, although I think he is better than a bunch of names being bantered around on this board, but he deserves a serious consideration from the body of work he is doing at LSU. Since Herman is DEFINITELY out of the running for the LSU job, I like Fisher as the best choice. But if Fisher doesn't come over then if we take the interim title off Coach Oeaux and give him a 5 year deal for $3.5mil with a small buyout, I personally would not be that upset about it.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:41 am to Tigerfan56
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Being better than Les Miles (in his current state) is a pathetically low bar to set for a job like this.
then dont ask the question, numbnuts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:52 am to Dudebro2
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Are you seriously saying that after the 2-2 start you expected LSU to go 6-1 down the stretch with Miles behind the wheel. If you answer is NO - like everyone else thought - then Coach Oeaux has exceeded expectations.
We were 2-2 with 2 losses coming on the road against teams we didn't know were as good as we now know them to be. If you said 6-1 (which we aren't yet) with home wins over Missouri, Southern Miss, Florida (minus 8 starters), Ole Miss. Road wins over an Arkansas team on pace to have the worst rushing defense in NCAA history, and an A&M team that has given up an average of 549 yards per game in their last 4 SEC games, sprinkled in with a shutout home loss to Alabama despite the defense giving us two turnovers on the other side of the 50.
I would say yes, given our talent, that doesn't surprise me at all.
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People on this board absolutely make me laugh, probably because more than 80% of the posters on this board have never played a down of competitive football in their life!!!!
Well if you want to play the football experience card, explain all the football administrators that have lived football for decades at power 5 programs worse than LSU having no interest in O as a head coach.
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What Coach Oeaux has done since he took over, and also at USC when he took over, is remarkable
I would say good. Hardly remarkable. Done what is expected. A Bama win would have been remarkable.
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But what he has done for our school is incredible and we should be extremely appreciative
I am appreciative for what O has done. I love him as a position coach and wish we could keep him. It's a business, and I don't want to see LSU fall further with CEO at the helm for years to come.
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Who in the hell after a 2-2 thought would have said we are the front runner to make the Sugar Bowl this year! Not a fricking one of us, including me. And if you say that you thought we would be then you sir are a liar!
Given what I said above, not all too surprising. I agree with Miles, we probably don't have that success and am thankful O saved the season. But going forward, he isn't the man for the job. That's not a knock on what he's done as interim coach.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:54 am to Dudebro2
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then Coach Oeaux has exceeded expectations.
Oh-Oh?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:59 am to Tigerfan56
ANY coach would've done what LSU has the past 5 games. That's why saying that if Coach O wins out he should get the job.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:02 am to Jeffreylebowski
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ANY coach would've done what LSU has the past 5 games.
John L. Smith?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:45 am to Dudebro2
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Since Herman is DEFINITELY out of the running for the LSU job
Since when?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:52 am to Lester Earl
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Les Miles for sure
I'm not even 100% sure Les wouldn't have had the same results as Coach O up to now. The defenses we've played have been historically bad against the run. The games wouldn't have been blowouts like they have been though but at the end of the year a win is a win whether its by 1 point or 50.
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