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re: Why is the LSU job's prestige so polarizing?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:46 pm to EmperorGout
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:46 pm to EmperorGout
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The only people who think either Tennessee or Auburn are better jobs are fans of those schools
LSU is a better job than both as I pointed out but that is almost exclusively due to the recruiting advantages.
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:48 pm to EmperorGout
I didn't say that. I said clearly better job. The best jobs are USC, UTa, UF, OSU, and UGA. Those are amazing schools with unlimited resources. After that, there are great schools, but have inherent disadvantages. Saban covers Alabama's location by being an excellent national recruiter, etc.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:49 pm to GenesChin
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LSU's Win% without Les + Saban wouldn't even crack the top 25
Alabama without Bear Bryant wouldn't even crack the top 70.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:50 pm to GenesChin
quote:Well, yeh
LSU is a better job than both as I pointed out but that is almost exclusively due to the recruiting advantages.
Who is arguing differently?Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:51 pm to OchoDedos
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excuse me? were you even alive in 1956-1979?
Ya, you had a solid stretch under McClendon but that doesn't put you in the top 5-10 programs all time pre Saban. Auburn had a great stretch under Pat Dye in the 80s and we aren't "elite" in history
Elite programs are top 5 to top 10. Pre Saban, LSU's win% was <.610 which is no where even close to elite. TAMU has a better win% than that at #25
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:54 pm to GenesChin
quote:We were 16th in winning percentage before saban came to LSU. We are currently 13th out of teams that have played at least 500 games.
LSU pre Saban/Miles isn't a historically elite program but now they have the built in advantages + expectations of a top 5 program. LSU's Win% without Les + Saban wouldn't even crack the top 25
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:55 pm to GenesChin
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GenesChin
you dont know shite...go frick with your XBox
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:55 pm to okietiger
Really depends on the generation. The people that think this is a second tier job still view Notre Dame as the top destination in football.
LSU is definitely a top 5-7 job.
LSU is definitely a top 5-7 job.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:56 pm to GenesChin
Where you pulling numbers from?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:56 pm to GenesChin
quote:Here is our all time ranking according to one website before the year 2000(aka before Saban and Miles). They have us ranked 10th all time. Now, if you go strictly win %, as you can see, we would be 13th. So, what I am trying to say, is you are retarded.
LSU's Win% without Les + Saban wouldn't even crack the top 25
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
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Alabama without Bear Bryant wouldn't even crack the top 70.
I was just pointing out that LSU's elite status today was built in the past 15 years and one of those guys who was a major contributor just got fired.
Hell, you can coach at top 5 program USCw and win 10 games against cupcakes and be loved compared to being fired at LSU
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Well, yeh Who is arguing differently?
Just saying that youc an find elite pipelines at other destinations too that have less expectations, more program history and a better city (for those who won't love the South East)
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:58 pm to GenesChin
quote:Well you seem to be a liar
Elite programs are top 5 to top 10. Pre Saban, LSU's win% was <.610 which is no where even close to elite. TAMU has a better win% than that at #25
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:58 pm to lsupride87
Thats the website I've been searching for. Can you post the link?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:58 pm to okietiger
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've seen plenty of people debate it. OU fans I'm around think it's a step down from OU (wut). Go look at the thread over in the SECr (I know, I know). But still.
I don't associate with idiots, maybe that's why I haven't seen this firsthand.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:58 pm to okietiger
One other thing to look at that seems to pushed aside is talent already on the team. In most cases like this the cupboard is empty and it is a total rebuilding job (Texas). LSU has a ton of talent already on its roster, and with the right coach has the potential to compete for the NC next year.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:58 pm to OneMoreTime
quote:LINK
Thats the website I've been searching for. Can you post the link?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:59 pm to GenesChin
quote:Well looky looky who is number 10 pre saban
Elite programs are top 5 to top 10. Pre Saban
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:59 pm to GenesChin
can we have a link to these stats?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:00 pm to Jones
quote:He is straight up making shite up
can we have a link to these stats?
I have linked the actual statsPosted on 9/27/16 at 3:02 pm to biohzrd
I think that depends on the hire. If the new coach, let's just use Chip Kelly for example, runs a different blocking scheme, then it will be a difficult few years.
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