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Why do you guys think Herman is our Ace?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:47 am
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:47 am
What makes you think he can succeed here? Big fricking deal he's somewhat successful with Houston. You guys just want to hire someone who will get people talking about us. You think if we keep Coach O it won't be splashy enough. frick that shite. If O keeps winning, you're damn right he should be our coach. He's from Louisiana, he gets us, he is a man of the fans and of the students and of the University. He has shown he has what it takes to manage our team and make us successful. He is the anti-Miles. And to those who say "he's just an interim, he failed as a full time head coach". IDK if you've been living under a rock, but for him this isn't some interim shite. He has taken over and transformed this program like it's his. For some reason all we see here is "Herman/Fisher/anyone else needs to be our next coach". Herman is off to a 6-2 record and just got his arse handed to him by fricking SMU. And don't give me that "his players quit on him" shite. If you're a good coach and you have control of your team, they won't quit on you. And about Fisher? 5-2 and put up only 17 ON WAKE FOREST.
It's ridiculous. Get your heads out of your asses cause our next head coach has a 3-0 record, and his name is Bebe.
It's ridiculous. Get your heads out of your asses cause our next head coach has a 3-0 record, and his name is Bebe.
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 1:49 am
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:48 am to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:50 am to GEAUXmedic
This is what i sent to someone else so just read the facts part. Anything i say about "you" is directed towards thw other poster.
Just read that and tell me you still don't understand why people are hesitant to hire O.
Eta: currently Herman has one more win than O as HC.
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Herman is 19-3 as HC and 1-0 in bowl games. So, yes he lost 2 games (in poor fashion) recently, but he's also 19-3 overall. People say his offense wouldn't work in the SEC yet he used it to beat Alabama and assist in winning a Natty with a 3rd string qb.
If you're not willing to admit the man's overall resume looks good then ok fine. No need to carry on the conversation. You cannot like my points, but it doesn't make them not true.
Eta: compared to another potential candidate, coach o, his HC record is 18-27 including his interim jobs. Jimbo is 73-16.
Fleck is 25-21 and improves his teams overall performance every year he is HC.
Larry fedora is 38-22.
Bobby petrino is 64-19
Chip Kelly is 46-7
Most if not all of those coaches have at least one bad loss. it doesn't make them bad coaches.
Just read that and tell me you still don't understand why people are hesitant to hire O.
Eta: currently Herman has one more win than O as HC.
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 1:52 am
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:55 am to Tiger Tracker
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Just read that and tell me you still don't understand why people are hesitant to hire O.
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Eta: compared to another potential candidate, coach o, his HC record is 18-27 including his interim jobs. Jimbo is 73-16.
With different teams. Coach O is proving he can do it at LSU, which is all that matters. We don't need just a head coach that can win, we need one that connects with our base, and our players, and our students, and our fans. He does it all, and he wins. I'd rather have someone who can win at LSU than someone who just doesn't fit here.
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People say his offense wouldn't work in the SEC yet he used it to beat Alabama and assist in winning a Natty with a 3rd string qb.
Then he should be our offensive coordinator, cause all of these accolades are from his coordinating positions.
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Fleck is 25-21 and improves his teams overall performance every year he is HC.
Larry fedora is 38-22.
Bobby petrino is 64-19
Chip Kelly is 46-7
Again, at other schools, not LSU.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:56 am to GEAUXmedic
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Herman is off to a 6-2 record and just got his arse handed to him by fricking SMU. And don't give me that "his players quit on him" shite. If you're a good coach and you have control of your team, they won't quit on you. And about Fisher? 5-2 and put up only 17 ON WAKE FOREST.
Do you really want to compare losses of jimbo/Herman vs O?
I think you'll be SHOCKED. He lost to teams he never shouldvd lost to...except it was like 3 times a year. But he also lost to decent teams as well. It just wasn't good.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 1:58 am to GEAUXmedic
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Again, at other schools, not LSU.
So our candidates can only be people who currently or previously coached at LSU?? I don't understand your point. Of course they were at other schools. I would say more than 90% of the time you hire a coach from a different school. Lol
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 1:58 am
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:00 am to Tiger Tracker
I'm saying those aren't reasons to hire them over coach o. If he continues winning this season, he will have proven he belongs here this is directed at those who say no matter what they don't want coach o.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:01 am to GEAUXmedic
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We don't need just a head coach that can win, we need one that connects with our base, and our players, and our students, and our fans. He does it all, and he wins. I'd rather have someone who can win at LSU than someone who just doesn't fit here.
So who, besides O, would "fit" as LSU's HC? Is he your only possible choice?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:02 am to Tiger Tracker
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So who, besides O, would "fit" as LSU's HC? Is he your only possible choice?
For me if he wins out, yes.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:02 am to GEAUXmedic
So you wouldn't have hired saban originally? I me, he had never coached at lsu and was definitely not a cajun.
No. No we don't. We need someone who wins. Winning will 'fit' just fine.
You are basically saying to hire him because he's one of us. Dumbest shite I've ever heard.
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we need one that connects with our base, and our players, and our students, and our fans. He does it all, and he wins. I'd rather have someone who can win at LSU than someone who just doesn't fit here.
No. No we don't. We need someone who wins. Winning will 'fit' just fine.
You are basically saying to hire him because he's one of us. Dumbest shite I've ever heard.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:05 am to GEAUXmedic
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he will have proven he belongs here this is directed at those who say no matter what they don't want coach o.
He will have proven that miles was holding back the offense more than anything. I mean i can definitely take his wins in to consideration and it does help his case. Just not enough to overlook his overall record and shortcomings when he was HC at ole miss (his only real perm HC job). I won't argue Herman has a limited body of work, but Jimbos resume blows O's resume out of the water without question. Jimbo also did it over many years proving he can run an entire program very well.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:07 am to SportTiger1
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o. No we don't. We need someone who wins. Winning will 'fit' just fine.
You are basically saying to hire him because he's one of us. Dumbest shite I've ever heard.
AND he wins. Re read. I said he wins and he has all of that. It's important whether you wanna believe it or not. There's no way in frick, if Coach O wins out, that any of those names would be a better hire. I'm done with this topic cause arguing with you people is pointless. But bookmark this shite for when we hire someone else and we lose to Saban for the next 4 years and they bolt to greener pastures and remember "We should've hired O".
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:10 am to GEAUXmedic
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But bookmark this shite for when we hire someone else and we lose to Saban for the next 4 years and they bolt to greener pastures and remember "We should've hired O".
Hes gotta beat Saban first. Next game will be a big test for us and O. If he loses you still all in, or only if he wins out?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:11 am to GEAUXmedic
The next coach may fail. It happens all the time. That's the risk you take when you fire your coach.
It still won't be true even then. HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE THE HC AT LSU. 6 games as interim doesn't give him that qualification.
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We should've hired O".
It still won't be true even then. HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE THE HC AT LSU. 6 games as interim doesn't give him that qualification.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:14 am to SportTiger1
I think he needs to change the name of the thread to "frick YOU IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE O CAMP!" Because he is definitely not interested in any answer to the question he asked.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:16 am to GEAUXmedic
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We don't need just a head coach that can win, we need one that connects with our base, and our players, and our students, and our fans.
I don't think Saban connected with our fans and our base until he started winning the SEC. He had something of a visceral disdain for the loud stupidity that rears up in LSU (among other SEC fanbases).
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I'd rather have someone who can win at LSU than someone who just doesn't fit here.
This is a nonsensical statement. If you win at LSU then you succeed by definition. If you are worried about who "fits" LSU in the sense of who has LSU connections or Louisiana roots then you chase a bad idea that destroys programs. People at places like Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, and Michigan time after time set their programs back by looking for coach who had school/local roots instead of just looking for the best possible coach.
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Fleck is 25-21 and improves his teams overall performance every year he is HC.
Larry fedora is 38-22.
Bobby petrino is 64-19
Chip Kelly is 46-7
Again, at other schools, not LSU.
This comment also makes no sense. By your implication no coach can be considered good for LSU unless they have already won games at LSU. That kind of nepotism limits options and leads to program stagnation and death.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:25 am to molsusports
I don't think we will hear back from him. Any facts that were presented to answer his original question just infuriated him.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:41 am to GEAUXmedic
Uh no.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 2:44 am to GEAUXmedic
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He's from Louisiana
WHY THE frick DOES THIS MATTER TO YOU IDIOTS.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 4:16 am to SportTiger1
And a year and a half coaching in a piddling conference and losing to lesser teams makes you the savior of LSU?
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