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re: When does BelowPar come here and enlighten us???
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:42 pm to DEG
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:42 pm to DEG
Look, I think Miles is a good guy. I also think he has made huge hiring mistakes as HC while at LSU with both the co-DC debacle and with keeping Crowton after last year.
In both cases it's either loyalty (co-DCs and likely Crowton) or money (potentially crowton).
Miles is a good coach. One with flaws, but a good coach nonetheless.
My point is that belowpar's version of what happened makes absolutely no sense. There have also been people with sources claiming that Miles' wanted him to stay and Crowton offered to leave on his own.
I don't believe either, but I find it funny that belowpar's version magically takes all responsibility of Miles for Crowton coming back.
In both cases it's either loyalty (co-DCs and likely Crowton) or money (potentially crowton).
Miles is a good coach. One with flaws, but a good coach nonetheless.
My point is that belowpar's version of what happened makes absolutely no sense. There have also been people with sources claiming that Miles' wanted him to stay and Crowton offered to leave on his own.
I don't believe either, but I find it funny that belowpar's version magically takes all responsibility of Miles for Crowton coming back.
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Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:43 pm to LSUMafia
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And if true, it proves Les cared more about his money than this team. I think a coach making $3.75 Million/year should've been willing to make that minimal sacrifice for the better of the team.
It's a large reason I have little respect for Miles. He's not out for what's best for LSU. He's out for what's best for Les, whether people want to admit it or not.
You have outted yourself, as an idiot and a Miles basher. Terrible post. Terrible thinking.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:46 pm to LSUMafia
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My point is if he isn't willing to eat $900,000 or even $470,000 for the buyout for a coach he hand picked and is failing miserably, then its on him. He is the one who pushed for their long contracts.
Your point is rediculous.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:49 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Did I just out myself? I am no fan of Les' and have never made any attempts to hide that fact.
My hypothetical is entirely based on BelowPar's version of what happened with Crowton being retained. If it's true, Les cared more about money than what was best for the football team and potentially cost them a conference championship shot that a reasonable offense would've offered this team.
In the end, I hope this wasn't the case and if the LSU admin straight said "No, we won't fire him cause you fought for his long contract" and then gave him no other option, how stupid do they look right now?
My hypothetical is entirely based on BelowPar's version of what happened with Crowton being retained. If it's true, Les cared more about money than what was best for the football team and potentially cost them a conference championship shot that a reasonable offense would've offered this team.
In the end, I hope this wasn't the case and if the LSU admin straight said "No, we won't fire him cause you fought for his long contract" and then gave him no other option, how stupid do they look right now?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 8:55 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Your point is rediculous
How is it ridiculous? That because he pushed for their long contracts and his raise that when the guy bombed that Miles should be held to account for it? Given his contract, it is more than fair.
Given that his professional counterpart in the state had just given up a huge chunk of his salary to help get Greg Williams to the Saints, it was NOT unheard of.
In the end, this is not what my point was. The point was that the entire premise of belowpar's "info" was to not blame Miles because the AD and TAF wouldn't let him fire Crowton. Do people realize how retarded that sounds?
By the way, I have no problem with Les looking out for himself. His attachment to LSU is not one of growing up a fan or going there. I do think people act like he made some huge sacrifice in 2007 though. The dude straight got paid $24.5 Million guaranteed.
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:03 pm to LSUMafia
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The point was that the entire premise of belowpar's "info" was to not blame Miles because the AD and TAF wouldn't let him fire Crowton.
Belowpar never said that. Only that Miles was looking to make a change. Period. That's it. No more information than that.
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How is it ridiculous? That because he pushed for their long contracts and his raise that when the guy bombed that Miles should be held to account for it? Given his contract, it is more than fair.
That's what good bosses do, esp after winning a national championship. If the administration had a problem with it, they should have objected or put better outs in the contract.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:18 pm to LSUMafia
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My point is if he isn't willing to eat $900,000 or even $470,000 for the buyout for a coach he hand picked and is failing miserably, then its on him. He is the one who pushed for their long contracts.
First of all that is a little ridiculous for you to bash him over, but IF the rumors were true I took it as it being more of a public perception problem then it was a money problem....LSU athletics makes money, but the university was in the process of crying poverty to the governor trying to lobby against the budget cuts (which why there isnt more uproar about the cuts then there already is/was I will never understand).....buying out a 1 million dollar OC contract wouldnt have looked at favorably....Les givign up his salary wouldnt have helped that
This post was edited on 11/28/10 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:02 pm to LSUMafia
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Again, I am not against BelowPar and appreciate his insights, but to act like he doesn't have an agenda when he comes on here is hilarious.
What's his agenda?
It seems to me that most of the people who bash him place a lot more value on how people view them on this site than BelowPar. In fact, he doesn't even post much on here other than during coaching hire decisions.
I find it humorous that people go out of their way to attack him because he gets attention.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:26 pm to moneyg
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What's his agenda?
that's the first thing i was wondering when i saw that post. It's a anonymous message board
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:36 pm to DEG
quote:You really need to search his posts. They are high comedy. Dunning–Kruger effect for all to see in black and white.
This is the worst post I've ever read on this board
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:56 pm to AlxTgr
Isn't it obvious? ...BelowPar IS Les Miles. He never has time to post during the season, but after it's over he always shows up to discuss coaching changes... I'm guessing he wants a little feedback on the decisions.
...Oh wait... BelowPar can actually form coherent sentences. nevermind...
...Oh wait... BelowPar can actually form coherent sentences. nevermind...
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:14 pm to lsutigerfan1976
Possibly there is nothing to enlighten anyone?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
belowpar is a joke.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 11:39 pm to PacLSU
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BP is still a reliable source and I, for one, hope he is on this board a lot.
I think so. I just think people put too much stock in what he says. It's not gospel. He isn't claiming to be anything he is not.
I think he is a connected source who is right more than wrong. That puts him at the top 1% of TD posters.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:21 am to moneyg
quote:Jealousy in it's purest form
I find it humorous that people go out of their way to attack him because he gets attention.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I think so. I just think people put too much stock in what he says. It's not gospel. He isn't claiming to be anything he is not.
I think he is a connected source who is right more than wrong. That puts him at the top 1% of TD posters.
Right. Even if BelowPar is in the athletic department or has connections to it does not mean that he can always be certain of what is going to happen. Hell Miles may not even know whether Crowton will be back.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:44 am to sms151t
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If he really is someone inside LSU Athletics he needs to be run out of department, people that work in athletics understand that statement. I seriously doubt he is.
riiiight....
Posted on 11/29/10 at 1:05 am to LSUtoOmaha
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Right. Even if BelowPar is in the athletic department or has connections to it does not mean that he can always be certain of what is going to happen. Hell Miles may not even know whether Crowton will be back.
Yep, his opinions most likely have more basis than the average poster, but still will not always be 100% correct. I think the instance people are giving him grief over here was something he stated as opinion.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 1:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, his opinions most likely have more basis than the average poster, but still will not always be 100% correct. I think the instance people are giving him grief over here was something he stated as opinion.
Its ridiculous. God help any coach at LSU that isn't undefeated by 2 touchdown margins. Even our inside fan sources have to be perfect.
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 1:12 am
Posted on 11/29/10 at 1:39 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Its ridiculous. God help any coach at LSU that isn't undefeated by 2 touchdown margins. Even our inside fan sources have to be perfect.
These boards are ridiculous. People are correct in their hesitancy to post strong opinion, or give information without citing sources. The average loser on his/her computer doesn't believe some people actually do have connections, know people and can get real information.
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