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re: Was the BK hire a desperation hire after LR went to USC?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:45 pm to TigerFlask
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:45 pm to TigerFlask
Plane in South bend on Oct 24
Contract less than Mel tuckers
Riley getting $2m more than BK while having the same agent
All point to this being agreed upon a month ago
Contract less than Mel tuckers
Riley getting $2m more than BK while having the same agent
All point to this being agreed upon a month ago
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:48 pm to Lombardi44
If that was desperation, it worked out very well. Their records are nearly identical. 
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:49 pm to Lombardi44
USC fired Helton before we fired O. I wouldn't be surprised if USC beat us to the punch with Riley, considering Riley's actions lead us to believe he has been preparing for the move to L.A. for quite some time now. I can imagine Woodward learned that Riley was open to leaving OU and reached out to inquire, and then Riley's camp let him know that they were already leaving for USC for a bungload of money.
This next part is getting into some tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff, but is there a possibility that Riley's agent and Woodward agreed to put the smokescreen out there that Riley to LSU was in the works, to draw attention away from Riley actually going to USC and also shift attention away from who Woody was really targeting which ended up being Kelly?
This next part is getting into some tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff, but is there a possibility that Riley's agent and Woodward agreed to put the smokescreen out there that Riley to LSU was in the works, to draw attention away from Riley actually going to USC and also shift attention away from who Woody was really targeting which ended up being Kelly?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:56 pm to Lombardi44
Downvote, downvote, downvote.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:57 pm to Lombardi44
This is an SEC rant level thread. You should go back over there.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:02 pm to Lombardi44
It's obvious to me that Woodward was evaluating several high-value HC prospects simultaneously. The agents for Jimbo, Kelly, and Riley were surely contacted. Perhaps Petersen's and Saban's, too, as well as a few NFL guys. I don't know if Napier's or Aranda's agents were contacted. I would not be surprised if this were a constant process for Woodward - maintaining relationships with various coaches and their agents, testing the waters, etc. In other words, he is a consummate professional. He does not allow himself to be put in a position of desperation.
It is absurd to suggest, like many in the media are doing, that Woodward was caught flat-footed by Riley's announcement and then "desperately" hired away from Notre Dame a top-5 coach. If he did, how is that not incredibly impressive in its own right, yet somehow the way this played out is supposed to reflect negatively on LSU.
It is absurd to suggest, like many in the media are doing, that Woodward was caught flat-footed by Riley's announcement and then "desperately" hired away from Notre Dame a top-5 coach. If he did, how is that not incredibly impressive in its own right, yet somehow the way this played out is supposed to reflect negatively on LSU.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:03 pm to Lombardi44
Go away.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:14 pm to Lombardi44
quote:
Was the BK hire a desperation hire after LR went to USC?
quote:
BK is a great hire, don't get me wrong,
These two sentences make no fricking sense in succession of each other
The answer is no. And even if the answer was yes, the second sentence in your posts shows that it wouldn’t fricking matter
Whatever place he was on our list has no application to his ability to coach and win championships here
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:12 pm to wildtigercat93
The timeline with SC really doesn’t matter much. It’s the firing of Ed that matters. I’m sure that SW had a good feeling for getting BK before he fired Ed. Then he just had to dot the I’s and cross the T’s. The rest was the waiting game.
SW said he was going after a whale and that is BK, not Riley. Riley may be a shark, or better yet a snake, but not a whale.
And the smoke with Riley was his agent getting his price up with USC.
I’m sure SW talked with several agents and had a #2 man on backup, but it wasn’t needed. He’s didn’t close any doors until he had BK fully committed. And he couldn’t announce anything due to ND having a shot at the playoffs.
The beautiful thing about all the smoke and everyone buying into it is pointed out in a quote attributed to Twain. “It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled”.
SW said he was going after a whale and that is BK, not Riley. Riley may be a shark, or better yet a snake, but not a whale.
And the smoke with Riley was his agent getting his price up with USC.
I’m sure SW talked with several agents and had a #2 man on backup, but it wasn’t needed. He’s didn’t close any doors until he had BK fully committed. And he couldn’t announce anything due to ND having a shot at the playoffs.
The beautiful thing about all the smoke and everyone buying into it is pointed out in a quote attributed to Twain. “It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled”.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:28 pm to Lombardi44
Except LR is on record as only having conversations with USC and no other schools.
LSU never approached LR.
LSU never approached LR.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:32 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
It was a desperation hire. BK was desperate to leave ND too. No way you hire a 60 year old with no rings and then overpay him without being desperate.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:34 pm to deuce985
quote:Why then did Kelly tell Dan Patrick that this thing was a "whirlwind" and he hadn't time to make any arrangements prior to coming to be introduced in BR?
BK was his #1
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:39 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Except LR is on record as only having conversations with USC and no other schools.
Good grief man, ALL coaches say this and ALL ADs say this guy was our first choice ect ect
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:42 pm to Lombardi44
Pure desperation, hiring a HC with 7 ten win seasons, 5 in a row, currently the 3rd highest winningest coach in the country.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:53 pm to Shaft Williams
quote:Only desperate people say stuff like this, and soon you'll be desperate.
It was a desperation hire. BK was desperate to leave ND too. No way you hire a 60 year old with no rings and then overpay him without being desperate.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:54 pm to Shaft Williams
quote:
then overpay him
We paid him Mel Tucker money dog. That’ll be middle of the road in 2 years
Posted on 12/2/21 at 2:56 pm to Jake88
Because he just left a team who could potentially make the playoffs and also a NC game run? I'd say that's a whirlwind for sure to uproot so fast and abandon your players. The timing was bad but he didn't have much choice because LSU wanted to get moving on the recruiting end. He probably realized he needed to get started on his future and probably wanted to finish coaching out. That was too long for LSU. They may not have landed him if playoffs were a definite thing who knows.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:05 pm to Lombardi44
12 up votes must’ve been from SEC Rant fans are Billy Napier fans. WTF what is wrong with you you must’ve had not done any research on Brian Kelly you actually think hey Coach on the outskirts of the college football playoff from a history program like Notre Dame just came to LSU because Jimbo Fisher and Lincoln Riley told him no
Posted on 12/2/21 at 3:14 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
Great article.
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