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re: Was Sark already coaching Bama?

Posted on 1/2/17 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 12:43 pm to
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29:40 Locksley talking to Hurts after fumble

thank you. i know i had seen it before

Posted by champion2271
Destrehan, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 12:50 pm to
Boogers are flowing
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:40 pm to
Sark and the shadow staff has spent the last month breaking down film and implementing a game plan for both OSU and Clemson. Sark was probably reviewing the Clemson game plan with Saban back in Tuscaloosa before Clem/OSU game was over.

I'm sure Sark had already assumed many of the OC responsibilities once Kiffin was hired at FAU. Kiffin's job was to prep for UW. Sark's job was to prep for the title game.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1484 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:28 pm to
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I'm sure Sark had already assumed many of the OC responsibilities once Kiffin was hired at FAU. Kiffin's job was to prep for UW. Sark's job was to prep for the title game.


If Lane had not left yet...having Sark do this job in an official capacity might be a violation depending on who he was working with.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20042 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:31 pm to
Again, your OC eats boogers. Yikes!
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:34 pm to
It's not illegal to wear a headset.

Jeez
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:54 pm to
and what about a non-designated coach actively coaching players on teh sidelines?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:20 pm to
Bama has been abusing staff limits for years and having extra on field coaches. It's how their assistant coaches have so much more time to recruit. They don't have to be at practice nearly as much. Burton burns spends more time in Louisiana than he does in Alabama throughout the year.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:22 pm to
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and what about a non-designated coach actively coaching players on teh sidelines?



"Coaching".

He can be on the sideline with the rest of the team.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6726 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:40 pm to
Probably just talking to him about stuff, not coaching him.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56549 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:48 pm to
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Was Sark already coaching Bama?
Booger scandal made me think about the so called "shadow" staff...

What are the rules?



Think about it. Bama just decided to turn over the offensive play calling and coordinator duties to a guy who supposedly had no contact with players all year.

Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47465 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:49 pm to
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They're are no rules.


Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:14 pm to
The rules are what Coach Saban says they are.
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:37 pm to
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What's the point of having a booth full of "consultants" listening in?


So in case you need to go ahead and let your OC go a week before playing for the NC the transition is seamless because the analyst and OC-to be is up to speed on how things are done during games.

Where the frick else would they be? In the stands?
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 6:52 pm to
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Titus Pullo


You completely missed the point. If analysts are barred from passing information to the staff or even talking to players then why does Saban have a booth full of consultants just "charting plays"? It's because they are passing information & do have contact with players during games.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:17 pm to
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explain to me how Locksley can coach on the sidelines, let alone participate in the coaching plan via headset


I don't know about Locksley, but if you guys can stop obsessing about Sark's booger eating for a moment, you'll notice that his headset has no mouthpiece, so he cannot communicate with the sideline from the booth.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 8:39 pm to
Probably. But then there's the issue of proving it.
Posted by tigersruledude
Member since Oct 2005
1484 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:45 pm to
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I don't know about Locksley, but if you guys can stop obsessing about Sark's booger eating for a moment, you'll notice that his headset has no mouthpiece, so he cannot communicate with the sideline from the booth.


Who else is in the booth with Sark?

is there a GA in there...does he have a mouthpiece?

This isn't difficult.

Also...the rules about what Locksley can do are clear:
11.7.1.1 Countable Coach. An institutional staff member or any other individual outside the institution
(e.g., consultant, professional instructor) with whom the institution has made arrangements must count against
coaching limits in the applicable sport as soon as the individual participates (in any manner) in any of the following:
(Revised: 1/18/14 effective 8/1/14)
(a) Provides technical or tactical instruction related to the sport to a student-athlete at any time;
(b) Makes or assists in making tactical decisions related to the sport during on-court or on-field practice or
competition; or
(c) Engages in any off-campus recruiting activities.

There is no way you can make a case that in that video Locksley is not providing tactical or technical instruction to the Bama QB. Because if he ISNT...

...why is he on the sideline at all?
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:52 pm to
You guys cracked the code. Congrats you bunch of Columbos. The NCAA - with access to same tv footage you have - missed it all but you detectives solved it. Your team doesn't lose to Bama bc your players and your coaches aren't as good as Bama's. It's only bc Bama has more coaches.

Feel better sissies.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 10:24 pm
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35446 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:57 pm to
These positions have existed for a while now, and those personnel have been on the sidelines just as long.

But as soon as you hire an overqualified, familiar face in that role, well then everyone loses their minds!
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 10:04 pm
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