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Part of O's plan

Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:45 am
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:45 am
LSU is building a football operation that will rival Bama. I am not talking about building wise but personnel infrastructure wise.

It is not a secret with the amount of "consultant"/ coaches Bama has on payroll. They have 25

Saban gets credit and deserves every bit of it , but LSU has lagged behind Bama in personnel. As good as LSU has recruited Bama's behind the scene recruiting apparatus gives them a huge edge with recruit identification. Ever notice when Bama recruits they jump in rating, besides a Bama bias bump, they identify elite recruits that mainstream recruiting sites miss. O and Austin Thomas's plan will rival Bama.

The same will go into game planning and prep.

LSU IS SPENDING MONEY!! Just not on one person.

O was not my 1st choice but I'm willing to give him a chance. Is he can pull this off.

I will never cheer against the Tigers or their coach, but I will call a spade a spade if it doesn't work out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422603 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:46 am to
Miles recruitied at almost the same level as Saban

still got dominated on the field

Xs and Os matter. O brings nothing to the table and is possibly worse than Miles in that regard
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:46 am to
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LSU is building a football operation that will rival Bama



just like every other program in the freaking country. yawn
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1812 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:46 am to
This would be awesome if someone of Sabans caliber was head coach. Instead it's someone that has a worse resume than Gerry Dinardo.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:46 am to
Look, I'm a shitty coach but all you gotta do is hire 50 to people to do it for me!! Rarara cajunz!!!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61283 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I am not talking about building wise but personnel infrastructure wise.


WHAT.THE.frick

How is Ed Orgeron apart of that?



We just need to throw the gaddum ball effectively and utilize what we've GOT.


This is saying its a talent issue, and Ole Miss says otherwise when it comes to Bama.


This is all bullshite. All of it.
Posted by BigMike15
Member since Nov 2011
130 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:51 am to
Finally someone rational. I'm not a huge fan of O but I'm willing to throw my support behind him. I think he should have a short leash but he doesn't deserve the critisism he's gotten on this board.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1028 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:

I will never cheer against the Tigers or their coach, but I will call a spade a spade if it doesn't work out.


Best statement by any poster today!! He wasn't my first choice but he is the coach so I will cheer for him and the players! If you stop cheering for the Tigers because of the hiring O, then don't let the door hit you in the arse!! I personally hope you never come back!
Posted by tigabait01
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
4734 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:52 am to
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This is saying its a talent issue, and Ole Miss says otherwise when it comes to Bama.


And Ole Miss' head coach and offensive coordintor were both hired 10 years ago by...Ed Orgeron.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1028 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Miles recruitied at almost the same level as Saban



Based on ratings maybe, but not based on real need. We missed on key areas; QB, OL, DL, and LB compared to Bama.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21048 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:55 am to
Any word in the S&C Program? It appears that the program isn't keeping up with Bama.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:56 am to
So tell us who the assistant coaches are that O has confirmations from....since everyone now knows nobody here knows shite, you won't be believed so no risk to ruin those deals
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Miles recruitied at almost the same level as Saban

still got dominated on the field

Xs and Os matter. O brings nothing to the table and is possibly worse than Miles in that regard


Yeah and Bama isn't a dynasty due to anything that O and Alleva can purchase. Bama is a dynasty because it's being run by the best head coach in the business. You can't compensate for a mediocre head coach by spending money on assistants. We proved that with Miles, and we will prove it again with Orgeron.
This is a second tier move by what is now a second tier football program. Cest LA vie
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 1:46 pm
Posted by MakeMoney
Guck Foodell
Member since Aug 2008
4215 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Xs and Os matter. O brings nothing to the table and is possibly worse than Miles in that regard


Rofl Miles had 0 idea what's happening, clock management, only coach to ever run a toss dive. This Miles knows Xs and Os is horse shite.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:59 am to
At least Miles even beats Florida
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422603 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

You can't compensate for a mediocre head coach by spending money on assistants. We proved that with Miles, and we will prove it again with Orgeron.

exactly

you have to have a HC who has the brain to develop a program philosophy and build that program both in recruiting and on the field. O can MAYBE do one of those and is absolutely terrible in the other. how does that compete with Saban/Bama?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422603 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

only coach to ever run a toss dive

what play did we run to lose the UF game?

quote:

This Miles knows Xs and Os is horse shite.

i didn't say that. i said for how bad Miles is, O is worse
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:02 pm to
In the word's of the great Bear Bryant, "I'm not a great coach, I have great assistants."
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:03 pm to
Miles star chased a lot. We recruited skill level on par with Bama, but have missed big time upfront.

Every team in America doesn't pay almost 2 million for 25 full time consultants. That is correct complete BS.

Sark is a consultant at Bama. Steele was a consultant for a while also. Their purpose is X and O.

HC don't have the time you think they do for The intense X& O's need. Most of their time is literally arse kiss booster and recruits.

Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:06 pm to
so if Guice runs the right play you are good with the hire?

You don't hire coaches like that.
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