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O and Aranda
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:11 am
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:11 am
Is it the general consensus that if O stays as HC, then Aranda is gone, but if you get Fisher, then Aranda stays?
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:12 am to geauxfish24
Which is why coach O is probably gone, Hunch tells me if Aranda stays Herman is our guy.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:17 am to burke985
Can't see why Herman is so promoted.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:17 am to burke985
I'm all about doing what is necessary to keep Aranda, but if he stays whether O stays or not, I'm a little perplexed why all the O hate right now.
Guy was given a shitty hand, and has played every card right. Outside of Bama (who any coach on the planet ain't beating) he has essentially dominated every game. Not to mention he played Bama better than anyone has or likely will all year.
Guy was given a shitty hand, and has played every card right. Outside of Bama (who any coach on the planet ain't beating) he has essentially dominated every game. Not to mention he played Bama better than anyone has or likely will all year.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:18 am to burke985
Jimbo is the right hire
It's not even close
Take the time to right down all the positives and negatives
It's not even close
Take the time to right down all the positives and negatives
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:24 am to Placebeaux
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O and Aranda by Placebeaux
Can't see why Herman is so promoted
He is exciting and wins games without highly recruited or 4-5 star kids.
He is very intelligent, very articulate, very presentable and motivates his players.
Should be the top choice for the LSU decision makers.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:25 am to geauxfish24
I just read some of the TR Score Board commentary and was negatively surprised to see people talking up Orgeron again and dismissing Aranda.
I think a lot of those people would strongly deny the obvious RE: which one of the two would be hired by another major program to be the head coach. Hint: it isn't Orgeron.
God damn I hope our decision makers have a broader perspective. It makes no sense to fire Les Miles and turn around to hire Ed Orgeron. FFS, this is our chance to upgrade the coaching to match the talent on the team.
I think a lot of those people would strongly deny the obvious RE: which one of the two would be hired by another major program to be the head coach. Hint: it isn't Orgeron.
God damn I hope our decision makers have a broader perspective. It makes no sense to fire Les Miles and turn around to hire Ed Orgeron. FFS, this is our chance to upgrade the coaching to match the talent on the team.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:26 am to ApexTiger
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Jimbo is the right hire It's not even close Take the time to right down all the positives and negatives
Not trying to be a dick, but exactly why is it "not even close"?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:26 am to geauxfish24
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Not to mention he played Bama better than anyone has or likely will all year.
LSU has top 5 talent
LSU should be winning
LSU should be playing Bama to the bone at home under the lights
this isn't a rebuilding situation
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:30 am to LCTFAN
Motivated?
SMU 38
Houston 16
SMU 38
Houston 16
Posted on 11/13/16 at 7:37 am to ApexTiger
LSU has four and five star Talent at skill positions. LSU does not have the depth at the lines particularly the defensive line. Miles and Company have been beaten badly on the recruiting Trail at defensive tackle defensive end middle linebacker offensive tackle and that is why you cannot beat Alabama and that is why you're a 3 loss Team every year.
I believe Coach O is a great hire because he can recruit at those positions he understands the value of those positions and he is a great motivator of young men. When Saban got here he changed the attitude first then he locked up the state then he built his Empire through the line.
I believe Coach O is a great hire because he can recruit at those positions he understands the value of those positions and he is a great motivator of young men. When Saban got here he changed the attitude first then he locked up the state then he built his Empire through the line.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:36 am to geauxfish24
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Aranda is gone
While I would hate to see him leave, there are other coordinators that can do well here. Clancy Pendergast and Justin Wilcox both have ties to Oregeron. Then it looks like Charlie Strong might need a job.
Once again, I prefer Aranda without a doubt but I don't think that it's a keep Aranda @ any cost!
Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:53 am to geauxfish24
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Is it the general consensus that if O stays as HC, then Aranda is gone, but if you get Fisher, then Aranda stays?
I personally don't think we have any shot at retaining Aranda if Herman goes to Texas "which from everything I am hearing is going to happen." Doesn't matter if Fisher is the HC or Coach Oeaux or Nick Saban, only way we keep Aranda is if Herman comes to LSU which won't happen either. My source at UT says they have and open checkbook for Herman and all the coaching staff he wants. At this point they are willing to pay whatever it takes to be relevant again he said.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:07 am to Placebeaux
I think the O fans and even the football players need to look at this a little more carefully before pushing for Coach O. I know he his a players coach in all but remember back when all this went down the same way when everyone and players wanted Mike Archer and look what happened after a couple of years.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:19 am to geauxfish24
quote:If Aranda leaves, we're going to need two coordinators. So it's pretty simple.
Is it the general consensus that if O stays as HC, then Aranda is gone, but if you get Fisher, then Aranda stays?
With O as HC, we have to rely on two elite coordinators.
With Jimbo as HC, we only have to rely on one. Jimbo is even a proven recruiter.
O brings a lot of support from some loud fans in the state. But if they looked at things logically, they would see the situation for what it is.
Even Dabo has run a successful offense in Clemson. He was an OC the year he was an interim HC. Maybe because the administration wanted to see if he could run a productive offense if he had to? Something to think about...
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:27 am to Placebeaux
quote:Herman's lack of experience is more of a concern for me than one game. If I knew my head coach was leaving, I would have a hard time getting motivated. I'm not saying motivation was the only factor here, but I think it's safe to say that players are human and can see the writing on the wall. This game was around the time Herman had to meet with his team to talk about rumors. That's a distraction period. To say it's not is being kind of blind. If you want to say that's not an excuse, fine. But the distraction was there.
Motivated?
SMU 38
Houston 16
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:29 am to geauxfish24
Not sure why Aranda would "go" if O is hired.
What's the thinking here?
What's the thinking here?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:30 am to Cadello
quote:He has no buy out if he goes to a head coaching job. It's what he wants eventually. The question is just how soon.
Not sure why Aranda would "go" if O is hired.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:34 am to geauxfish24
It's the rant they must bitch
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:40 am to PennyPacker
quote:While I would hate to see O leave, there are other recruiters that can do well here.
While I would hate to see him leave, there are other coordinators that can do well here.
Once again, I prefer Aranda without a doubt but I don't think that it's a keep Aranda @ any cost!
Once again, I prefer O as a recruiter without a doubt but I don't think that it's a keep O @ any cost!
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 9:42 am
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