re: My honest opinion of maybe keeping Ed O

I don't think anyone will beat bama this year.

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Meanwhile, Coach O is a far better coach and recruiter than Miles ever was.

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You have absolutely nothing to base this on...either point.

I guaran-damn-tee you that if O is HC for 3 years or more, he will not average 10 wins at LSU. You just don't go from 3-21 to elite HC. It's incredibly unlikely.

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So your metric for your program is beating Bama?

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Like that's not the metric for AU's program? I'm sorry dude but that's just priceless coming from an Auburn fan.

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You have absolutely nothing to base this on...either point.

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What do you mean nothing? Are you blind or something? The performance of the LSU tigers the past two weeks is night and day from the way it was when coach Miles was still the coach, and that’s all thanks to coach O.

Furthermore, Coach O is the man character in the Bruce Feldman recruiting book Meat Market. Indeed, he’s widely considered to be one of the best recruiters in the country.

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I guaran-damn-tee you that if O is HC for 3 years or more, he will not average 10 wins at LSU. You just don't go from 3-21 to elite HC. It's incredibly unlikely.

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How can you guaran-damn-tee anything based on intuition? What if your intuition isn’t worth a crap? The truth is you obviously don’t have a clue.

Coach O has demonstrated that he has learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss, which is why he was so successful at USC the last time around he was an interim head coach, and if he has another successful stint here this time around at LSU, then he deserves to be considered for the job.

Not to mention that he wasn’t all-bad at Ole Miss, as coach Houston Nutt won for three years with the players’ coach O recruited. Then when those players were gone, the program went downhill fast.

In addition, current Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze said the other day that the program was on the verge of turning around right when coach O was fired.

It's amazing how nobody can see past what O did at Ole Miss... boy I'm sure there are some Alabama fans that are happy that their program looked past what Saban did at Miami... or the fact that Saban didn't even win a bowl game before he came to LSU... I mean heck can't win a bowl game at Michigan State? Bombed in the NFL?? What kind of coach could that man be, he sure ain't no Tom Herman or Jimbo Fisher, that's for sure... Heck even Bear Bryant went 1-9 while at Texas A&M, then turned out to be the greatest college football coach ever.

Get over the Ole Miss aspect and look at what the man has done since - Alabama got over Saban's and Bryant's failings.

*P.s. -- if you never fail, you never learn. You never learn, you never grow... you end up in a rut like we have been in.

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What do you mean nothing? Are you blind or something? The performance of the LSU tigers the past two weeks is night and day from the way it was when coach Miles was still the coach, and that’s all thanks to coach O.

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You are just comparing O to the Les Miles of 2015 and 2016. 2010-2013 Les Miles teams would have destroyed SMiss and Mizzou. You made a blanket statement, it was dumb.

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Furthermore, Coach O is the man character in the Bruce Feldman recruiting book Meat Market. Indeed, he’s widely considered to be one of the best recruiters in the country.

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He is a great recruiter, no doubt. But so was Les, thats precisely why he stayed here for 12 years. Our classes have ranked in the top 5 for the last decade pretty much. It's completely illogical to assume O would do any better than that.

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In addition, current Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze said the other day that the program was on the verge of turning around right when coach O was fired.

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Is that why his record got worse each year, the more of 'his players' came on board?

2007 was his 3rd year. Most good coaches can get enough of their guys by year 3 to be competitive. Some would've even been Juniors by then.

So Houston Nutt came in, used pretty much the exact same players as O had in 2007, destroyed LSU at tiger stadium, and destroyed TTech in the Cotton Bowl, while going 9-4.

The fact is, if O was even an adequate HC to go along with his recruiting, he should have gotten better as he went along. His teams got worse.

And yes, I know the practices were too long.

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2007 was his 3rd year. Most good coaches can get enough of their guys by year 3 to be competitive. Some would've even been Juniors by then.

So Houston Nutt came in, used pretty much the exact same players as O had in 2007, destroyed LSU at tiger stadium, and destroyed TTech in the Cotton Bowl, while going 9-4.

The fact is, if O was even an adequate HC to go along with his recruiting, he should have gotten better as he went along. His teams got worse.

And yes, I know the practices were too long.

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Maybe, just maybe, it took him being a total failure and going back to work for top flight coaches to open his eyes as to what works and what doesnt.

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In other words, you are insinuating that coach Les Miles was a superior coach to coach O, because coach O happens to be a coon arse.

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By record, yes Les Miles was a better coach than CEO. And to be fair, I didn't want Miles matching wits with them any longer either. Don't let the shiny object distract you from the facts on CEO.

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You are just comparing O to the Les Miles of 2015 and 2016. 2010-2013 Les Miles teams would have destroyed SMiss and Mizzou. You made a blanket statement, it was dumb.

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What, are you on crack? No, I’m comparing coach O to Les Miles, as Coach O is a far better coach and a far better recruiter. Meanwhile, Les Miles never was a good coach. Miles didn’t win because he was a good coach. He won because he was at LSU. So yes, it is a blanket statement, i.e., coach O is a far better coach and recruiter than Les Miles period, end of story, see you later.

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He is a great recruiter, no doubt. But so was Les, thats precisely why he stayed here for 12 years. Our classes have ranked in the top 5 for the last decade pretty much. It's completely illogical to assume O would do any better than that.

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Assistant coaches that Miles hired were descent recruiters, but nonetheless under Miles they weren’t good enough to stop Nick Saban from cherry picking the top prospects from Louisiana almost every year.

Nevertheless, because LSU is located in the heart of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country, LSU was still able to end up with decent recruiting classes, which is why Miles had a good won/loss record. It certainly wasn’t due to his coaching prowess, as Les Miles squandered away so much talent during his tenure at LSU that it is just utterly pathetic.

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Is that why his record got worse each year, the more of 'his players' came on board?

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You’re full of it. No one can win without the players. When coach O came in Ole Miss was in piss poor shape. However, coach O recruited really well for a university that had lost most of its prestige since it previous glory days. Which is why when Houston Nutt took over the program after him, he was able to win until he exhausted the players’ coach O had recruited after three years, and that’s when his program began degrading again. Nonetheless, don’t take my word for it, go read Meat Market, indeed, go look up what Hugh Freeze says about the situation, as he was there and he knows.

Meanwhile, coach O acknowledges he wasn’t a good coach when he was at Ole Miss. He said he tried to micromanage every single aspect of the program including the aspects of the game he knew absolutely nothing about. He even forced his OC to run Pete Carol’s West Coast Offense, even though his OC had exactly no experience whatsoever running that kind of offense.

Coach O has acknowledged his many faults while at Ole Miss and the fact that he wasn’t a very good coach, but he has learned from it and moved on. Today, he is a much better delegator who lets his coaches do what they were hired to do, which is to coach.

If you aren’t making any mistakes, then you aren’t learning anything. That’s how people learn, they learn best from their own stupid mistakes. Coach O isn’t making any of those same stupid mistakes anymore today because obviously he has learned from his previous experience. The man is no dummy like Miles always was.

Meanwhile, Herman doesn’t have any previous experience, as he has only been a head coach for a year and a half at a second tier school and he is winning with another coach’s players. In other words, he is still very much unproven at this point in time. He may turn out to be an excellent head coach, but then again he may turn out to be only a pretender. No one knows at this time, as only time will tell.

making decisions to hire/fire coaches over one game is laughable. The body of work is what matters. If you fired coaches after "bad" losses, Saban would have been gone after his first season at bama and first season at LSU.