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re: Miles Turned Down More Money to Stay at LSU
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:59 am to Brageous
Posted on 1/16/11 at 10:59 am to Brageous
yeah the long term contract and lack of any school who miles has a connection with (CU and UM got denied) means there isn't really any threat to take miles (other than retirement or death)
so this stability definitely fits in with les miles' recruiting persona, which should help
so this stability definitely fits in with les miles' recruiting persona, which should help
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Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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choctaw, how does the BOS know what UM offered?
Maybe Miles or his agent told them....i don't know. But who would you believe...BOS members or some posters on a message board?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:01 am to RightKindaGuy
i'm still curious who leaked the "miles will sign with UM if offered" line
it would be stupid for UM to leak that, b/c it puts them in a box. either (1) they look stupid when it's wrong, if they offered or (2) if they never intended to offer, the whole point of the show for the fanbase was worthless
so it was either LSU or miles (or his people)
LSU was dead set on re-signing miles, so it makes no sense to give miles more leverage. they'd be negotiating against themselves
it would be stupid for UM to leak that, b/c it puts them in a box. either (1) they look stupid when it's wrong, if they offered or (2) if they never intended to offer, the whole point of the show for the fanbase was worthless
so it was either LSU or miles (or his people)
LSU was dead set on re-signing miles, so it makes no sense to give miles more leverage. they'd be negotiating against themselves
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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choctaw, how does the BOS know what UM offered?
does it really matter, either way, to you? It's not like it would change your opinion of Les.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:04 am to Choctaw
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Maybe Miles or his agent told them.
even if they told LSU he had an offer from UM, how did the BOS know he had an offer from UM?
i'm not even pushing the "UM had no interest" angle. i'm just saying that this story has no merit b/c the BOS doesn't know what was or wasn't offered. they were at the negotiating table with incomplete information
the only way i could see the LSU BOS knowing was if les got UM to put down the offer in writing
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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so it was either LSU or miles (or his people)
Or just some dumbfrick at ESPN trying to break a story with no solid info to back it up.
Naaaaaaaaaaah. Could never happen.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:05 am to Stevo
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It's not like it would change your opinion of Les.
only les improving as a head coach can change my opinion of les. you are right
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:06 am to RightKindaGuy
I bet Michigan was not dumb enough to give Miles the most lucrative buyout in college football. Regardless of salary, Miles I guaranteed far more here than he is at any other school due to the buyout.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:07 am to Stevo
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does it really matter, either way, to you? It's not like it would change your opinion of Les.
when u say confidently that miles was using LSU for contract leverage, then yea, it matters
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:11 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Or just some dumbfrick at ESPN trying to break a story with no solid info to back it up.
clearly it's ESPN's fault that Miles didn't get the Michigan job.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:14 am to STLSU
how do you know the info didn't come from the michigan side?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:15 am to dreaux
wow
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:16 am to dreaux
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how do you know the info didn't come from the michigan side?
what advantage would they have received by leaking the info?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:20 am to STLSU
i don't know why some people refuse to acknowledge that Miles was offered the UM job and it may have been a great offer.
...nevermind...i do know why.
...nevermind...i do know why.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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what advantage would they have received by leaking the info?
Full Conspiracy Theory: Maybe Michigan admins weren't sure about hiring Les but knew it would be unacceptable to make another hire without speaking to him. Michigan leaks the story to make Miles feel pressured ala 2007. Everyone knows Les will be stalwart when people are attempting to pressure his decision.
Like I said...full conspiracy theory with holes but none any bigger then the Michigan AD expecting everyone to believe that Hoke was always the guy.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:30 am to Choctaw
Don't believe it for a second. This is all just a PR move by LSU, making an attempt to improve Miles' relationship with alumni, fans, and media. Don't forget the heat that was coming down from those three sources when LSU was 6-0 during a stretch of some ugly wins. Also, just because that more money quote is in print doesn't make it fact. We've all seen about a dozen different quotes in print during the UM coaching search that should prove that to all of us. Yeah, LSU's PR department is working this angle big time.
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'm still curious who leaked the "miles will sign with UM if offered" line
Plenty of folks who like giving out information about something that they know nothing about.
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it would be stupid for UM to leak that,
Not necessarily
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(1) they look stupid when it's wrong, if they offered or (2) if they never intended to offer, the whole point of the show for the fanbase was worthless
Not if you didn't take into account one main factor - that even in this day and age they felt that "Michigan" would bring Les running back because of any one of the following factors -
1. Alma Mater
2. Bo
3. Michigan Name
They couldn't envision, given all these plusses, that someone (Les) could reject them.
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so it was either LSU or miles (or his people)
Signs point more to delusional Michigan trying to force Les' hand thinking that they held all the cards.
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LSU was dead set on re-signing miles, so it makes no sense to give miles more leverage. they'd be negotiating against themselves
Maybe it was not greater by too much than what would have been given anyway at the end of this good 2010 season.
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even if they told LSU he had an offer from UM, how did the BOS know he had an offer from UM?
There is always someone willing to anonymously leak stuff out - once the deal was off. Maybe someone in Michigan let them know. Simpler - it could have been Les or his agent.
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i'm not even pushing the "UM had no interest" angle. i'm just saying that this story has no merit b/c the BOS doesn't know what was or wasn't offered. they were at the negotiating table with incomplete information
No - You dont have information. The BOS apparently did - going by the "named" and on-the-record quotes in the paper.
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the only way i could see the LSU BOS knowing was if les got UM to put down the offer in writing
How did you know that there wasn't an "un-official" offer in writing? Because you didn't get to see it or that only Les and a few others got to see/have it?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:36 am to CalTiger
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They couldn't envision, given all these plusses, that someone (Les) could reject them.
but why leak it and make themselves look dumb?
why put that info out in the first place if you're UM? the risk-reward is out of whack.
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You dont have information. The BOS apparently did
unless miles had a written offer from UM, the BOS had as much information as any of us
les saying he has an offer from UM doesn't mean the BOS knew he had an offer from UM, broseph
Posted on 1/16/11 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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but why leak it and make themselves look dumb?
why put that info out in the first place if you're UM? the risk-reward is out of whack.
As I mentioned in the earlier post - maybe you and I can't imagine it and probably Michigan was high in the instep and didn't even give it consideration.
Equally stupid reason - someone in Michigan could have just leaked it out for no reason other than to just be the first to do so to a news outlet. Stupider things are being done on a regular basis.
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unless miles had a written offer from UM, the BOS had as much information as any of us
les saying he has an offer from UM doesn't mean the BOS knew he had an offer from UM
Yeah because you and I are wingmen for miles that he would keep us in the loop
Why is it so difficult to accept that
1. There could have been an "unofficial" offer - maybe just a handwritten note or just printout with numbers?
2. Someone in Michigan confirming the numbers (why - same reason folks do other irrelevant or stupid things ->see leaking previous offer news)
3. Though we think that we have all the info based on TD and other reliable/factual sources - the school and its employees might actually have other sources and people who have proven to be reliable in the past and can probably given them better advice/information to make a proper decision.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 12:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but why leak it and make themselves look dumb?
why put that info out in the first place if you're UM? the risk-reward is out of whack.
agreed.
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