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re: Looking like Chip Kelly's next gig will be in college

Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:35 am to
Posted by CaliTigerForLife
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:35 am to
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No shite....getting fricked by Saban on one side and getting it on the other by Chip.


Are you serious? LSU manhandled Kelly as they do when they play A&M, Texas Tech, Oregon and similar offenses. I sure wouldn't be afraid to match up with him, albeit for only a couple of years. He's not staying at any college for any length of time.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:22 am to
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Didn't Price go to strippers and such? That is the fricking strangest analogy I've seen. It's so disjointed.


Yeah Price never even coached a game at Bama. Terrible example
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:40 am to
also price built a solid/OK program at WSU that had one magical year here or there. like 1997, with ryan leaf going off, they went 10-2. they were 3-8 and 5-6 the 2 years prior. then they had 3 losing seasons in a row, followed by 2, 10-win seasons

nothing like what kelly did at UO

Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11353 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:32 am to
They made it to the Rose Bowl against OU one year after Leaf too. It may have been the year Bama hired him.
Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:40 pm to
I think he will stay in the pros
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:43 pm to
49ers is my guess
Posted by LSU_Tigahs66
Member since Aug 2014
678 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:45 pm to
He's going to San Francisco.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:10 pm to
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Didn't Price go to strippers and such? That is the fricking strangest analogy I've seen. It's so disjointed.


I was just making a comparison as coaches who were successful in situations that seemed to fit them particularly well. In Price's case, he obviously didn't translate very well elsewhere. We never got to see him at Bama, but his lack of success at UTEP in a very weak conference was telling. He wasn't a good enough or versatile enough coach to translate to a different type of situation. THAT was my point. It really had nothing to do with Bama, other than the fact that his success at WSU got him that gig and made him a hot commodity.

A better comparison would probably be Rich Rod. He was a perfect fit at WVU, and got all the way to the doorstep of a title shot before leaving. He was at a school that had some success before him, but had never sustained it to the degree that he did.

Personality wise, there are similarities between RR and Kelly, which definitely contributed to RR's failure at Michigan. Him going in guns blazing and trying to change not just the offense, but the way things were done around there, didn't set well at all with the establishment. While he's done better at Arizona and seems to be a better fit there culturally, he still hasn't set the world on fire. That doesn't make him a bad coach, necessarily, but I think it calls into question his potential for greatness. In hindsight, it looks like he will only be successful in a certain type of coaching situation.

Again, I'm not guaranteeing that Kelly would fail if he went back to the college game somewhere other than Oregon (which may be a while since he just took the 49ers job), but there is risk associated with him. I think Nick Saban could show up just about anywhere and win big quickly. He's just that good. On the other hand, I honestly think there are Power 5 schools out there where Kelly would struggle, unless he made some adjustments in recruiting and management style. He's a guy with a lot of reward potential, but there is plenty of risk, as well.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12432 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:26 pm to
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No shite....getting fricked by Saban on one side and getting it on the other by Chip.


And big ole Bert on top.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:39 pm to
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Are you serious? LSU manhandled Kelly as they do when they play A&M, Texas Tech, Oregon and similar offenses. I sure wouldn't be afraid to match up with him, albeit for only a couple of years. He's not staying at any college for any length of time.


LSU manhandled Kelly with their best defense ever and oregon replacing 7 starters on offense in their first game. Oregon started a walk on at OL and WR in that game. Kelly's scheme is nothing like an air raid offense.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:48 pm to
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Personality wise, there are similarities between RR and Kelly


RR and Chip Kelly aren't a like. Also, what RR has done at Arizona is about as good as it gets at that school. They've never won a rose bowl and he might be the most successful coach in their history when all is said and done.

The fact is that coaches, even great ones, go to situations where they fail. Saban failed at Miami. I guarantee you there are only a handful of coaches in the game football that are better game day coaches than Kelly.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:20 pm to
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I guarantee you there are only a handful of coaches in the game football that are better game day coaches than Kelly.


I won't dispute this. However, as we saw with Rich Rod at Michigan, there is more to it than just game day coaching. Politics and recruiting can be just as important in the college game.

Again, I wouldn't predict him to fail, but there are schools where I think it would be a lot harder for him to have the same kind of success that he did at Oregon.
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