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re: I don't think there's a smokescreen, here's why
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:44 pm to bass
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:44 pm to bass
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Candidates such as Fedora, Fleck, Aranda would sign on with extreme value and may keep LSU out of money hell.
LSU NEEDS a coach. Fisher, Fedora, Fleck, Aranda, etc. don't NEED a job. They hold the upper hand in the negotiations. Obviously LSU presents a great opportunity for a coach to have success, but LSU isn't exactly in a position to low-ball anyone too much. With Texas joining the fray, I don't think you can say LSU is the clear-cut best job available anymore.
Everyone is trying to create leverage with the leaks.
Herman's folks are saying: "Hey Texas. Herman isn't THAT sold on you and LSU looks like a good place. You might want to get that opening bid in soon and high!"
LSU is putting out info saying: "Hey Fisher. We'd like you to come coach here, but Ed Ogeron might just be what LSU needs. The fans love him! We'll pay you. But if you price yourself out of the market we got no problem going with O, or Fedora, or someone else!"
I wouldn't be surprised to see reports saying LSU has offered Herman the job come out soon even if Fisher is LSU's #1 choice. Herman's camp might put it out because it gets Texas' attention to piss or get off the pot. LSU might put it out because it sends a signal to Fisher that they aren't afraid to go in a different direction. For their part, Fishers' camp is going to put out reports that LSU badly wants him. That is to make FSU get off their arse if they really want to keep him. Fedoras' people are going to keep his name in the mix, even if it's just to force NC to give him a raise.
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If you think about LSU's president and admins, do you really think they're interested in spending over 5 mil a year for a first year coach?
They may not want to, but if that's the asking price, they will.
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:46 pm to bass
The bottom line should be what LSU will profit each year winning vs. profit each year in mediocrity. That difference alone covers the higher end of the salary they could pay for a winning program. If Alleva told BOS they could pay the university $10 million each year with a $6 million head coach or $5 million with a $3 million dollar coach that's not even a discussion. The ticket sales, concessions, booster money, etc. goes up when you are winning.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:52 pm to Alt26
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They may not want to, but if that's the asking price, they will.
I hope you are right, I'd love to be wrong. Just not sure those old dogs are up for new tricks.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:55 pm to bass
Where did you get these numbers? Lol
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:58 pm to bass
A little over 5 won't get fisher to come to lsu it will be 6-7 and he's not worth that
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:58 pm to BayouBengal99
Y'all really think Texas or LSU or anyone for that matter will pay Saban numbers for Herman? K
We'll see what happens
We'll see what happens
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:59 pm to BayouBengal99
Edited OP to include link, i don't know how credible it is.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:04 pm to bass
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If you think about LSU's president and admins, do you really think they're interested in spending over 5 mil a year for a first year coach?
If they're not, then we are screwed. The prices of elite coaches goes up every year and if anybody thinks the recent pay scale will get it done, they are mistaken. If LSU wants to steal a big name coach, they will need to pony up and reset the bar. Miles' 4 million was the highest salary only about 5 years ago, now its not even enough for an up and comer.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:08 pm to Chicken
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Chicken
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Herman...second year coach.
Wait a second..... tell us what you know!!!
Why is Herman the only candidate you corrected me on???
Maybe there is a smokescreen!
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:08 pm to Mikethegreat
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A little over 5 won't get fisher to come to lsu it will be 6-7 and he's not worth that
If he can win, he's definitely worth it. If our other options are Coach O and fedora, he's definitely worth it.
the admins better be looking at this as an investment, not just hiring another employee. Which is why i said yesterday, go ahead and throw a huge offer at Saban. 10-15 million. Who cares? You're guaranteed a couple of championships and by the time the contract is up with the current trend in salaries, that number wont be crazy. And if you can win a championship or 2, the salary is well worth it and the university will benefit.
(i know Bama would sell every trailer in the state to match any offer, but that's also a good thing, to cut into their football budget as much as possible. Would have been even better to do this immediately after firing miles to heap a big distraction on their season.)
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:10 pm to bass
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If you think about LSU's president and admins, do you really think they're interested in spending over 5 mil a year for a first year coach?
yes
Posted on 11/21/16 at 4:14 pm to bass
there was one poster on here that advocating offering Herman 15 million per year.
this person has probably never had to pay a bill in his life; not even had a business course.
this person has probably never had to pay a bill in his life; not even had a business course.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:00 pm to LSU GrandDad
I think Herman ends up with 7 mil a year. I don't see LSU going there considering asst pay on top of that. Again, I'd love to be wrong.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:01 pm to bass
You don't pay a huge buyout for Miles to go and make a cheap hire. Money won't be the issue here.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:02 pm to bass
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I think Herman ends up with 7 mil a year
you think a team is going to pay him more than saban?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:04 pm to Jones
With Texas, Oregon jobs available; yes.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:04 pm to PPeterson1
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You don't pay a huge buyout for Miles to go and make a cheap hire. Money won't be the issue here.
I didn't think Miles was gonna coach this year at all either.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:06 pm to bass
I just cant see him getting 7 million. The guy and his agent dont have the leverage for that.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 5:33 pm to bass
Yes silly.
Why would they be talking so much Jimbo.. they are willing to pay for the best then.. and it pays for itself and it's no longer a bad look.
Why would they be talking so much Jimbo.. they are willing to pay for the best then.. and it pays for itself and it's no longer a bad look.
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 5:34 pm
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