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Hot Take: Frank Wilson is an uninspiring retread

Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:03 pm
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:03 pm
Note to Alabamians: Title says retread. That is NOT the same as the "r-word." For more context, please see "Merriam Webster's Dictionary" (a type of book that tells you the meaning of words).

Wilson was a great recruiter at LSU, but shady AF. Don't get me wrong, shady used to be a good thing. But now? Not so much given the new NIL ruling. Shady won't get you far since most of the under-the-table sht is above board now.

Hell, even BYU is out there openly paying players. They had arguably the first "ethically questionable" NIL deal out there. Now, will Wilson help with recruiting? Yeah. But he's not a game-changer, and certainly not worth an AHC title.

But can Wilson at least coach? Uh, nope. He inherited a fairly new but stable/solid UTSA program. His first 2 years were average. They hit .500 and made one bowl game. In Wilson's second season, they even beat Matt Rhule's Baylor team despite hardly scoring.

But here's the thing. UTSA was all defense. In fact, they were kind of elite. But despite having an offensive-minded HC in Wilson, the UTSA O was dreadful.

I should also mention that UTSA's DC in Wilson's first 2 seasons was a rookie no-name coordinator named Pete Golding. He was essentially the only reason they were competitive. Then Pete got the offer to become Bama's co-DC and once he left, UTSA went straight down the crapper.

Wilson went through 3 OCs in his final 3 years. In Frank's final season, they beat FCS Incarnate Word, barely beat a dreadful Rice team at home, and their other 2 wins were against ODU (by 1 point) and UTEP (by 10 points) who were a combined 0-16 in C-USA play.

After UTSA finally fired Wilson, he somehow fell azz backwards into the McNeese job where he proceeded to use his press conference as a soap box to bitch about how unfair it was that UTSA fired him.

The guy who replaced Wilson has managed to win more games in his first 2 years than Wilson did in 4. Wilson, meanwhile, guided McNeese State to its first losing season in 15 years. Followed another losing season.

This is not some grandslam hire. This is a coach who was on his way out at McNeese. His reputation has taken a hit and he is in no way worthy of the AHC title.

Now, if you AGREE with my assessment, give me a big thumbs DOWN.
Posted by winntiger
318
Member since Jul 2004
1259 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
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The guy who replaced Wilson has managed to win more games in his first 2 years than Wilson did in 4.


So you’re saying he did this with talent that Wilson recruited?
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5008 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
So, a few things with this:
1. Check who all he put in the league while at LSU
2. Do you really think being the head coach at Mcneese is easy or anything like being the running backs coach at LSU?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52795 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
Literally nobody GAF about his time as a head coach. It’s irrelevant to his role here.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9625 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
Stop trying to have a hot take.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35272 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
His only job will be recruiting most likely. How is that not a grand slam?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26785 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
Actually not hot at all.

You think you don't need good recruiters in the age of NIL?

That's moronic.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70914 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

But can Wilson at least coach? Uh, nope.


quote:

Wait this is probably the most important key to LSU, when I tell you the best running back coach I’ve had on all levels, I’ll be back in Death Valley more………

-LF7
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:06 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10206 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:06 pm to
You’re overthinking it dude. The HS coaches in LA love him and they have a lot of influence on prospects & their parents
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5357 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Yeah. But he's not a game-changer, and certainly not worth an AHC title.

Wrong and "associate head coach" means literally nothing.
quote:

But can Wilson at least coach? Uh, nope. He inherited a fairly new but stable/solid UTSA program

Do you know the difference between a position coach and a guy running the program? Because you clearly don't, the rest of your post isn't even worth discussing.




Oh, except this part
quote:

This is not some grandslam hire. This is a coach who was on his way out at McNeese. His reputation has taken a hit and he is in no way worthy of the AHC title.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Do you even know who the associate head coach was the last decade at LSU?
Posted by Bongi
Gonzales, LA
Member since Oct 2008
722 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:07 pm to
Just because you are not a good head coach, doesn't mean you are a bad coach
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:08 pm to
Good thing we aren't hiring him to be the HC then.

We need Frank to do what Frank does best and that's help us put the fence up period. I could care less what position he coaches. If he can help LSU stay in the top 5 recruiting classes year-in and year-out then he is worth every penny.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14734 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:09 pm to
To shorten this up you could have just said Frank Wilson is nothing more than a glorified bag man.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5749 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

24 posts

You should really post less
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

But can Wilson at least coach? Uh, nope. He inherited a fairly new but stable/solid UTSA program. His first 2 years were average. They hit .500 and made one bowl game. In Wilson's second season, they even beat Matt Rhule's Baylor team despite hardly scoring.

But here's the thing. UTSA was all defense. In fact, they were kind of elite. But despite having an offensive-minded HC in Wilson, the UTSA O was dreadful.

I should also mention that UTSA's DC in Wilson's first 2 seasons was a rookie no-name coordinator named Pete Golding. He was essentially the only reason they were competitive. Then Pete got the offer to become Bama's co-DC and once he left, UTSA went straight down the crapper.

Wilson went through 3 OCs in his final 3 years. In Frank's final season, they beat FCS Incarnate Word, barely beat a dreadful Rice team at home, and their other 2 wins were against ODU (by 1 point) and UTEP (by 10 points) who were a combined 0-16 in C-USA play.

After UTSA finally fired Wilson, he somehow fell azz backwards into the McNeese job where he proceeded to use his press conference as a soap box to bitch about how unfair it was that UTSA fired him.

The guy who replaced Wilson has managed to win more games in his first 2 years than Wilson did in 4. Wilson, meanwhile, guided McNeese State to its first losing season in 15 years. Followed another losing season.
none of this is relevant to what his job will be here. He’s here to help Kelly recruit Louisiana and he’s probably the best Louisiana recruiter ever.
Posted by KevinSteeleFan
Member since Nov 2021
57 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

His only job will be recruiting most likely. How is that not a grand slam?



I addressed it. IMO his recruiting isn't going to be as effective as it was previously.

There were better options to go for as an AHC whose primary role is essentially to recruit.

Wilson as just positions coach? Fine. But Wilson with that AHC title is a waste. That title has value despite it being somewhat meaningless on the field.
Posted by The Albatross
Member since Mar 2021
865 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:10 pm to
How the frick do people like you function on a day to day basis
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71734 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:10 pm to
Not reading all that shite
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

That title has value despite it being somewhat meaningless on the field
it has literally no value when your head coach has 30 years of head coaching experience
Posted by nola2269
New orleans
Member since Nov 2018
488 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:13 pm to
This is worst than all the "done deal" posts a few weeks ago. This is trash. This is terrible. You are dumb. Wow. Terrible take. This is as bad as Charles Berkley 2014 golf swing. This is as ugly as elephant man. You must be the assistant to the regional manager bad. Holy cow shite.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:14 pm
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