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re: Herman and UT
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:31 pm to Dudebro2
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:31 pm to Dudebro2
Texas boosters so far up their own arse they don't realize what a laughing stock their athletic department is. I'm not saying they won't get Herman or that our AD is much better but everyone knows how toxic their boosters are. It's laughable that they think they can just pick Herman up no problem. These are the same guys that thought they had Saban in the bag a few years ago.
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:34 pm to Dudebro2
You know, to me, I don't know if there is a coach out there that can get Texas back to elite status. Entirely to many programs in Texas now that aren't going anywhere. All these kids in Texas don't all want to go to Texas anymore. And don't think that is gonna change. I think even Saban realized that a couple years ago when Texas wanted to throw $100 million at him. And I don't think a coach like Herman is scared of Saban. So many so called experts keep saying " why would you wanna go to LSU and have to compete against Saban every year ? " Well, Herman didn't get to be thought of as an up and coming top notch coach by being scared of other coaches. I could see him realizing the talent he has pick of the crop of in LA, the talent he knows he could still recruit in the Houston area, and that Saban is probably gonna only gonna be around 5 more years tops. He could be the next Saban.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:34 pm to Kirk Herbstreit
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Does Houston have open practices? What if Joe Alleva just showed up one day to watch Houston practice?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:36 pm to OchoDedos
I want PJ Fleck if Herman goes to Texas. This guy is going to be a star and lsu should snag him before that happens
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:41 pm to John Cena
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I want PJ Fleck if Herman goes to Texas. This guy is going to be a star and lsu should snag him before that happens
Agree 1000% times ten..... the guy is an absolutely amazing coach. Have studied him since first seeing his name on here. He is a homerun talent as well.
Herman is 1A. Fleck would have to be 1B.
Herman and Aranda would be lethal!!!!
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:38 pm to NAsh-vegas Tigah
Agree 100%. I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we ended up with Fleck
I know majority of LSU fans want a huge name, but he's a stud
I know majority of LSU fans want a huge name, but he's a stud
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:48 pm to 7nette
I don't know if UT is his dream job but a lot of people around him seem to think so and if you look at his coaching history most of it is in the state of Texas so it probably is not far off.
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1998 Texas Lutheran (WR)
1999–2000 Texas (GA)
2001–2004 Sam Houston State (WR/ST)
2005–2006 Texas State (OC/QB)
2007–2008 Rice (OC/QB)
2009–2011 Iowa State (OC/QB)
2012–2014 Ohio State (OC/QB)
2015–present Houston
That pretty much tells you that his recruiting contacts are strong in Texas that is for sure, so if UT isn't his dream job, maybe being from Ohio would make Ohio St. his one and only, looking at that coaching history I would have to say UT probably is one of his dream jobs!
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1998 Texas Lutheran (WR)
1999–2000 Texas (GA)
2001–2004 Sam Houston State (WR/ST)
2005–2006 Texas State (OC/QB)
2007–2008 Rice (OC/QB)
2009–2011 Iowa State (OC/QB)
2012–2014 Ohio State (OC/QB)
2015–present Houston
That pretty much tells you that his recruiting contacts are strong in Texas that is for sure, so if UT isn't his dream job, maybe being from Ohio would make Ohio St. his one and only, looking at that coaching history I would have to say UT probably is one of his dream jobs!
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:52 pm to Gaspergou202
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Problem for Texas is that with recent failures they need a sure thing. Is that Heman?
From what my friend tells me Herman is their ONLY choice right now if Strong doesn't make it and they will back up the truck to get him if Strong is fired, which he said if they lose to Oklahoma on Saturday it is a forgone conclusion unless a miracle happens like it did to Miles last year. But he also stated that he doesn't see a miracle happen because they saw what LSU did and how that has not worked for us so they don't want to make that same mistake.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:57 pm to Dudebro2
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One of my good friends growing up is a huge UT booster and very influential in UT circles especially in the athletic department. We spoke last night for about a half hour and he said there is almost zero chance Strong is coaching next year at UT. He said that enough power brokers at UT truly want Herman at UT next year and are making serious noise to make that happen. He said that if UT loses this weekend to Oklahoma that will seal his fate even if UT wins out from there on. He also stated that even if UT wins the game this weekend no matter what is said in the press he feels it is very remote that Strong will be coaching at UT next year unless UT absolutely goes on a tear from here on out which most people at UT feel that is a very remote possibility.
My buddy went on to say that the AD's comments were done strategically so that Herman and his agent understand not to do anything until their horse gets into the race. He also said that if Strong has a couple of really bad outings, the biggest one being this weekend, and even though the AD said that his job is secure during this season that they could pull a LSU and fire Strong during the season. His last comments to me were "Strong's footing right now at Texas is as tenuous as Les Miles's was at LSU this year" and we all know how that turned out.
UTA thinks more of themselves than anyone else does.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:04 pm to OchoDedos
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but UT are afraid LSU will throw the bank at Herman, and the SEC intrigues him
Here is what I was told, take it for what it's worth. The power brokers at UT really, really want Herman and are behind the scenes pushing the envelope very hard right now to make things happen if Strong continues to fail this year. Oklahoma this Saturday is literally the game to watch. If UT wins than what my friend tells me is Strong will have bought a little bit of time but if there are anymore hiccups after the OU game he still thinks Strong gets fired and he . He went on to say that the AD's remarks were done very calculating letting Herman and his agent understand to be patient this will play itself out.
What the Power brokers at UT are really concerned with is success for Herman at LSU if he were to take the job and that is why they are pushing really hard to have Strong fired mid season "even though the AD said they don't do that" if they lose on Saturday. What they are not afraid of is anyone out-bidding them for Herman if they are in the race!
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:06 pm to sunnydaze
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Texas' problem isn't offense. Hire Herman and and the what? Still give up 30 plus every week?
Strong is a defensive minded coach, how is that working out for UT so far?
Look what Petrino is doing at Louisville, just because you are an offensive or defensive minded HC doesn't mean you can't hire an OC or DC to compliment you that gets the job done.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:08 pm to LSUlax17
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It's laughable that they think they can just pick Herman up no problem.
Yep their consensus "from what my friend told me" is that they do feel that if they are in the race for Herman there is no way they will lose and he stated that emphatically.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:15 pm to ZoTiger6
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I could see him realizing the talent he has pick of the crop of in LA, the talent he knows he could still recruit in the Houston area, and that Saban is probably gonna only gonna be around 5 more years tops. He could be the next Saban.
That was kind of my argument to my friend as to why the LSU HC gig is better than UT's HC gig. I said I can promise you the guys who think they are good, Petrino, Herman etc...... aren't afraid of Saban and it is that old adage "you want to be the best, then you have to beat the best. He then replied, yes that is true but you don't have to beat him every single year like you would have to do at LSU. Good point but I still don't buy a coach who has confidence in himself not taking a job at LSU because he has to play Saban every year and as it has been going lately you will still have to play him every year in the playoffs if you don't come to LSU and stop him.
I also reminded him that at UT you have to compete against TAMU, Baylor, Houston, TCU, OU and OSU for talent in the state of Texas. In Louisiana you compete against no one in reality. Bama will get there one or two players each year but that is it.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:05 pm to Dudebro2
Would either school really want to hire a coach who runs from Saban?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 2:57 pm to Dudebro2
Unfortunately no matter how much we LSU fans may think that Texas is a complete shite show and Austin is a hipster hell hole, the national perspective is still that Texas is a premier job, perhaps the #1 job in college football. That's why most people assume that Herman will choose Texas, and even though I think LSU is the better position, I've also accepted that we're probably not going to land him. Jimbo is my guess.
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