re: Great Example of LSU Good Ole Boy Network Re: Stovall Firing

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However, as others said, his hires-Bertman, Pat Henry, Sue Gunter, Arnsparger--set the tone for LSU's consistent excellence

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yep we just had that brain fart called joe dean. but hey joe dean loved LSU just like O!

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His vision for athletic facilities is STILL ahead of its time.

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yup

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So you think it is a good idea to cut the students out, for pennies, then miss their dollars when they become earners?

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based on fact that there has been a waiting list for season tickets for damn near 20 years.......yes

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Ugh, this just starts sounding worse and worse. O will never compete for NCs. And we will be stuck with his 6-6 seasons because he'll be impossible to get rid of.

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yeah, i do not see him crashing and burning (although possible) like archer, but, nattys? doubtful. seccg? if we get lucky? looks like more 3 and 4 and 5 loss seasons. just like we hve had since 1-9.

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Arnsparger bailed for UF where he hired Spurrier after he talked us out of it.

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i remember the BOS being sold on the players wanting archer. I do not recall bill selling archer prior to leaving for UF. That was a long time back.

Thanks for correctly locating the last "Good old boy moment". Of course it was completely understandable considering the Bo Rein circumstances. Since then, being a "Louisiana guy" has not been an asset, it's been a liability. Everybody wants the "outsider". Saban drilled that home. I would argue that Coach O was Aleeva's third choice, and viewed by Aleeva as easily as good as Fedora, Gundy, etc. Third choice is hardly like some ind of rigged good old boy appointment. Especially when Aleeva's job is riding on this.

It's remarkable how few here are familiar with the parochial past of LSU's AD. The meddling of unqualified, greaser politicos and local hucksters is precisely what crippled LSU FB for most of its history. The state has always been full of incestuous, clubby dolts ready to fondle the LSU FB program like pederast uncles. It was only when Emmert hired Saban, when the AD took on an air of professionalism and shook off the clawing good ole boys, that the sleeping giant awoke. This is all fairly well documented, but appears to have been forgotten in the glow of our recent successes.

The more I think about, the more concerned I become that Alleva has done something dangerous, delivering LSU back into the hands of rubes and swamp plotters. The real test will come if O struggles. Hope I'm wrong and that the AD will be run like a legitimate business intent on championships.

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Regardless of wins and losses, these are dark days for the program. Not because of who is coach but for what it represents administratively.

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Primarily because these elitist rat bastards couldn't give two sh*ts whether LSU ever wins another conference or national championship as long as they get their perks. So to those of you who showed your ignorance by comparing those of us who were against this hiring to "Hilary supporters", check your sources and I'm pretty sure you'll find quite a few "Hilary supporters" in the good old boy network.

It's been leaked that Alleva didn't even consider searching until we lost to Florida in embarrassing fashion with a potential Sugar Bowl birth on the line.

Basically had Ed beaten everyone but Bama, they wouldn't have even picked up the phone and called Herman or Fisher. It was a sham. Alleva didn't act in good faith for the fans and supporters of LSU. Only the grease ball politicians who wanted "one of theirs" in the spot so they could buy their way back into the party.

You think the politically connected of Louisiana wanted Fisher, who like Saban would have probably kept the good ole boys away? Or Herman, who is perceived as an outsider?

Saban was the exception not the rule because Mark Emmert said, essentially, "screw this! Pay Saban what he wants to get him here." Saban came in and flushed the good ole boys out ... and wouldn't you know, it completely changed the culture of our program. The penny pinching mediocrity of 1989-99 was gone and within two years we won the SEC and soon after the NC.

Now we are back where we were and it's only a matter of time before we are back to the pre-Saban days completely. Orgeron might coach his arse off but the political meddling will spoil the program eventually.

Dark times ahead.

Broadhead details the way things were, but it's a different era, and Broadhead was the beginning of the end. It wasn't seamless (Joe Dean) but it's basically over.
Consider:
1)John McKeithen was in an era when the governor was actively involved in LSU, including actively recruiting for LSU football. But he was the last of that era.
He like most of the La Governors through McKeithen's era, were from N La. Since the end of McKeithen's 2nd term, all governors have been South La (except for 4 years of Buddy Roemer) and none have had the LSU ties that McKeithen had. It's a little counterintuitive, but in many ways LSU and BR were closer to N La than S La back then (still some commonality).
2)The TAF has taken financial control of LSU sports. That wasn't the case 30 years ago.
3)Stovall was and is a LSU blue-blood.
4)Oregeron is likeable, seemingly a "cultural fit", but he's not a LSU blue-blood.
5)The LSU die-hards wanted Charles McClendon gone in 1974/75. It took 5 more seasons to force him into retirement. Miles was moved out in a season or 2.
Conclusion: won't have a problem moving on Orgeron if he doesn't win at acceptable levels.

To think that Coach O has anywhere near the political backing of Jerry Stovall is completely Assinine. Ya'll are giving a guy born in LA who never played a down or took a class at LSU the same credibility as a HEISMAN finalist who played then coached here. You're an idiot.