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re: Do you think kiffin would consider it
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:57 pm to Cbatigerfan
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:57 pm to Cbatigerfan
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Him and orgeron are close if you have ever had to make a tough career move you know people make a difference not so much money however if we have O as Hc then I think we pay him somewhere around 3 mil which gives us some extra cash to throw at lane maybe 1.5-1.7 range
If kiffin wants to be a HC one day, if that's the case, who does he learn more from about running a GOAT type program? Ed Orgeron or Saban? I don't deny his quality of life may be better here, but he doesn't seem like a guy who wants to be OC for another 3 years. Why leave now to go do the same job under someone with less exp as HC than your current coach?
If we go by the laws of friendship means more than any of the other things i mentioned then Dave Aranda will automatically leave LSU and go be DC for Tom Herman. Is it possible? Sure. Is it a concern? Sure. Is it very likely? No
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:58 pm to geauxcoco
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Oh, so you have talked to Lane about this? Do tell....
Yeah. Said he's ready to take the helm again, said he's learned a lot from Nick, and that geauxcoco pees sitting down.
Lane. What a character.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:11 pm to Tiger Tracker
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If kiffin wants to be a HC one day, if that's the case, who does he learn more from about running a GOAT type program? Ed Orgeron or Saban? I don't deny his quality of life may be better here, but he doesn't seem like a guy who wants to be OC for another 3 years. Why leave now to go do the same job under someone with less exp as HC than your current coach? If we go by the laws of friendship means more than any of the other things i mentioned then Dave Aranda will automatically leave LSU and go be DC for Tom Herman. Is it possible? Sure. Is it a concern? Sure. Is it very likely? No
That's one way to look at it, but living under Saban's shadow, albeit a very short one, he may never get fully recognized as a great OC. It's always "Yeah but Saban . . ." Join your buddy O and show you don't need little Napoleon to be great. If I was O I would plant the seed and ask my friend if he had the cajones to stick it too his jerk boss. Then I would pitch it to Alleva. Joe would probably offer O the HC job on the spot.
Not sure if that's tampering, but what the heck.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:11 pm to Cbatigerfan
I would be 100% behind hiring O if he could pull Kiffin as OC.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:17 pm to BayouCowboy
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That's one way to look at it, but living under Saban's shadow, albeit a very short one, he may never get fully recognized as a great OC. It's always "Yeah but Saban . . ." Join your buddy O and show you don't need little Napoleon to be great
Kiffin's already being rumored for a couple of HC jobs. The stink that the USC experience covered him in has worn off.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:21 pm to Tiger Tracker
Keep o as head coach, hire spurrier as o coordinator. Let O handle recruiting and spurrier can golf and coach the offense. Championship
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:21 pm to ColeLSU
Matt Barkley wasn't bad in college
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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100% Kiffin takes the OC if offered.
WTF
A. He's winning more at Bama
B. Nothing looks better on your resume than time under Saban, especially when you're trying to rebuild your reputation of being immature and hard to work with
C. He's making absurd amounts of money, which we could match but would not go much over
D. He's 1 or 2 years away from a HC job and he knows it. Why leave?
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:37 pm to ColeLSU
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So if everyone on this thread worked for a total overbearing control freak a-hole that literally screamed at you in public, then you were offered the same job at a different company doing the same thing with same or better pay and benefits and could work for a friend, you bunch of dumbasses would say 'no thanks'....???? Yea right
I mean maybe Saban and Kiffin are best buds off camera, who knows. But if I were offered an equal or better paying job doing the exact same thing minus a massive prick boss.....sign me up
I've never heard of Saban running any coordinators off, so he obviously isn't that bad. I think you are highly exaggerating their relationship issues.
Couple that with the fact that he is one of the highest paid OCs in the game, as well as winning the NC or making the playoffs EVERY DAMN YEAR.
There is absolutely ZERO reason to leave BAMA to come work for a coach that may/may not be worth a damn. What if O falls flat on his face? It could greatly reduce Kiffin's appeal if he does in fact want to be a HC again...and i think thats pretty obvious.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:43 pm to ColeLSU
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So if everyone on this thread worked for a total overbearing control freak a-hole that literally screamed at you in public, then you were offered the same job at a different company doing the same thing with same or better pay and benefits and could work for a friend, you bunch of dumbasses would say 'no thanks'....???? Yea right
If I were a talented coach that messed up a good opportunity, and you told me that I'd get another HC job if I worked for the best HC ever for 3 years, yeah I'd put up with it. Saban gets people paid.
Working for Coach O probably isn't a thought for him. He's thinking a lot bigger than that. Seems like the only reason you guys can come up for him to come to LSU with is that Saban is mean to him.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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100% Kiffin takes the OC if offered.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:57 pm to ColeLSU
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So if everyone on this thread worked for a total overbearing control freak a-hole that literally screamed at you in public, then you were offered the same job at a different company doing the same thing with same or better pay and benefits and could work for a friend, you bunch of dumbasses would say 'no thanks'....???? Yea right
I mean maybe Saban and Kiffin are best buds off camera, who knows. But if I were offered an equal or better paying job doing the exact same thing minus a massive prick boss.....sign me up
ColeLSU is spot on.
Let me add to it. Kiffin is in year 3 of working for Saban. First of all, I doubt Lane thought he needed to learn anything from Saban, but whatever he is learning, you can bet in Lane's mind he has learned enough in 3 years. Secondly, every coach likes to win titles, right? Well it looks like Kiffin could be about to land his second national title in a row. What else is left to prove for him in Tuscaloosa? Third, even while making 2 playoffs in a row, winning a national title, and now sitting at 7-0 and ranked #1 in the country, Lane knows that Saban receives 95% of the credit while Lane gets about 5%. All of these coaches have the confidence in themselves to believe that they can do it on their own (not saying that is a bad thing). Lastly, we aren't getting the full Kiffen experience under Saban. You know Saban pulls the reigns back, as evidence of the arse chewing Lane received in public a few weeks ago. Lane knows that if he comes and works with his good friend Coach O, who Lane has hired twice, then Kiffen will have full control of the offense.
If Coach O is named head coach here, and if Kiffen is not a head coach somewhere next year, I think the chances are better than not that Kiffen is the LSU OC.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:01 pm to Cbatigerfan
quote:He would rather whip up on USC as HC at Oregon.
If we do promote CEO to full time I think kiffin would love the chance to whip Nicky boys arse as OC.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:02 pm to sicboy
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There's no way he makes a lateral move from bama to LSU.
I think that might depend on how he feels about Saban's arse-chewings he has received over the past 3 years. Kiffin, just like most coaches, is an Alpha Male and he was neutered by Saban on national tv and then in the press after the game as to that "that wasn't an argument, that is called an arse-chewing." Kind of depends how Kiffin feels and if he wants to get his balls back!
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:03 pm to Goldrush25
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Seems like the only reason you guys can come up for him to come to LSU with is that Saban is mean to him.
pretty much. Saban's a big meanie head.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:I don't think there's any chance in hell. He will always be successful in Bama. It's pretty much guaranteed. His stock will just continue to rise. If he comes here into a new situatin, there's a chance his stock could fall. If I wanted to be a head coach at any point in time (which I'm sure he does), I wouldn't leave my meal ticket and just about guaranteed success at my current position.
100% Kiffin takes the OC if offered.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:12 pm to Choupique19
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ColeLSU is spot on.
Let me add to it. Kiffin is in year 3 of working for Saban. First of all, I doubt Lane thought he needed to learn anything from Saban, but whatever he is learning, you can bet in Lane's mind he has learned enough in 3 years. Secondly, every coach likes to win titles, right? Well it looks like Kiffin could be about to land his second national title in a row. What else is left to prove for him in Tuscaloosa? Third, even while making 2 playoffs in a row, winning a national title, and now sitting at 7-0 and ranked #1 in the country, Lane knows that Saban receives 95% of the credit while Lane gets about 5%. All of these coaches have the confidence in themselves to believe that they can do it on their own (not saying that is a bad thing). Lastly, we aren't getting the full Kiffen experience under Saban. You know Saban pulls the reigns back, as evidence of the arse chewing Lane received in public a few weeks ago. Lane knows that if he comes and works with his good friend Coach O, who Lane has hired twice, then Kiffen will have full control of the offense.
You're whole response makes the point he would a HC somewhere before coming to LSU.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:24 pm to Dudebro2
To all the Kiffin would leave Bama for LSU OC position people, let me ask you a question.
When Miles was fired people on this board as well as sports analysts and media outlets all thought Kiffin to be a candidate for HC at LSU. Why would he decide he's only OC material and then come work for D line coach at that same university?
It just doesn't add up to me. Hell i would love to have him as OC. Im not saying i dont want that scenario. Im saying if you're banking on O to land him as an OC i would bet small. Very small.
When Miles was fired people on this board as well as sports analysts and media outlets all thought Kiffin to be a candidate for HC at LSU. Why would he decide he's only OC material and then come work for D line coach at that same university?
It just doesn't add up to me. Hell i would love to have him as OC. Im not saying i dont want that scenario. Im saying if you're banking on O to land him as an OC i would bet small. Very small.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:56 pm to Tiger Tracker
It will never happen. Makes no sense whatsoever for him to do that. He can take a HC job after this year for triple his OC money. Saban saved his career by taking him in. Kiffen wont turn down HC jobs to go be an OC for Sabans rival. This is laughable and stupid.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:54 pm to geauxcoco
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I think Kiffin heads straight to BR no question if Ed O is retained and we keep kicking butt this year.
Why though? Loyalty doesn't mean he just leaves for a friend no matter the ramifications it could have on his future. Kiffin will likely want a HC job this year, if not, very soon. Why would he risk the move? If he came here and it went to shite his stock plummets.
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