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Winds of War and War and Remembrance by Herman Wouk
Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:23 pm
I am a huge fan of history, historical fiction and warfare in general. As a veteran myself I often like to read about soldier's perspectives and experiences throughout time in different conflicts.
That said, I have withheld on reading this opus of sorts. Am I doing myself a huge disservice? Is this just the WW2 version of the North and South trilogy or is this far different and far more in depth and enjoyable than that?
Those that have read them both, yay or nay?
That said, I have withheld on reading this opus of sorts. Am I doing myself a huge disservice? Is this just the WW2 version of the North and South trilogy or is this far different and far more in depth and enjoyable than that?
Those that have read them both, yay or nay?
Posted on 6/14/17 at 10:29 pm to Drank
I enjoyed both books, but they're not just strictly about the war. Both books focus on a fictional naval officer, Pug Henry, and his family. They include the stories of Pug's three children and their war experiences and romances.
Winds of War starts before WWII (mid/late '30s) and ends after Pearl Harbor, but before Midway (IIRC). War and Remembrance picks up where the first book ended and goes through the end of WWII.
Through his various commands and assignments, Pug ends up meeting FDR, Stalin, Hitler, Churchill and most everyone else of significance at the time. But it's all done in way that is plausible and not too far fetched.
I say "Yay" to both of them.
Winds of War starts before WWII (mid/late '30s) and ends after Pearl Harbor, but before Midway (IIRC). War and Remembrance picks up where the first book ended and goes through the end of WWII.
Through his various commands and assignments, Pug ends up meeting FDR, Stalin, Hitler, Churchill and most everyone else of significance at the time. But it's all done in way that is plausible and not too far fetched.
I say "Yay" to both of them.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:42 am to White Roach
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I say "Yay" to both of them.
Agree. Between Pug Henry and his two sons, the books visit almost every theater of war and you meet many of the biggest historical figures.
ETA. Another good book of this type is "The Fighters", by Colin Willock. It follows the careers of two fighter pilots, one British, one German, from prewar through conclusion.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:55 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Thanks guys. I went ahead and ordered them both off of Amazon after reading the free sample. It drew me in immediately. A big fan of GOOD, captivating storytelling that spans time.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:42 pm to Drank
Between the two books, he covers almost ten years. They provide a very broad military and political background to almost the entire war - ETO, Pacific, Eastern Front, Holocaust.
The Caine Mutiny was partially based on Wouk's experiences as a Naval officer during WWII. You might enjoy that too.
The Caine Mutiny was partially based on Wouk's experiences as a Naval officer during WWII. You might enjoy that too.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:17 pm to White Roach
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Between the two books, he covers almost ten years. They provide a very broad military and political background to almost the entire war - ETO, Pacific, Eastern Front, Holocaust.
This.
I enjoyed the two-book series. Both sweeping historical novels from different points of view.
My favorite was Caine Mutiny. First rate characterization and story telling.
Posted on 6/16/17 at 10:53 pm to White Roach
Anything by Bernard Fall, B H Liddell Hart, Col. David Hackworth, Col. Thomas X. Hammes, Ralph D. Sawyer
This short list should keep you reading for a while.
If you prefer treatment of strategy I recommend a semi recent critique of Boyd's OODA Loop theory by Franz Osinga.
ETA:responding to OP
This short list should keep you reading for a while.
If you prefer treatment of strategy I recommend a semi recent critique of Boyd's OODA Loop theory by Franz Osinga.
ETA:responding to OP
This post was edited on 6/16/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 6/18/17 at 11:23 pm to Fatal Conceit
Do yourself a favor, and start that series yesterday!! And when you finish, go read The Caine Mutiny, and when you finish that, go read The Hope and The Glory (two separate books done much like Winds and Remembrance but detailing the birth of Israel as a nation and its survival into modern times). Wouk is a master of weaving fiction in and out of real events. Great stuff.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:11 pm to Drank
Great books, especially the second one. I have read them both and highly recommend them to you. My dad spent WWII on the Intrepid fighting in the Pacific. He was entertained by a number of novels set during WWII, "Catch-22" and "From Here to Eternity" for example. He told me that although these were fun reads, they were not realistic. They treated the war as though it were one big party. He was moved by "War and Remembrance". He said that if you really want to know what things were like, read that book.
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:10 am to geauxpurple
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to the audio versions of these. Kept me very entertained driving to an from work for weeks.
Posted on 7/2/17 at 5:35 am to Drank
quote:Yay! With enthusiasm. Outstanding slices of historical fiction.
Those that have read them both
This post was edited on 7/2/17 at 5:39 am
Posted on 7/2/17 at 8:50 am to Drank
Great books. All of Wouk's work is excellent.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:40 pm to Drank
Herman Wouk - CBS Sunday Morning
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A Happy belated Birthday to novelist Herman Wouk, who turned 102 on May 22, 2017. He's the Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Caine Mutiny, The Winds of War, and War and Remembrance, among others. His latest latest book is an autobiographical memoir entitled Sailor and Fiddler: Reflections of a 100-Year-Old Author, published in 2016. Though reclusive, the Pulitzer Prize-winner invited correspondent Tracy Smith to his Palm Springs home, and talked about a career conjuring fiction from real life.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 5:07 pm to Drank
I only read War and Remembrance and it was very good; as was Caine Mutiny.
Can you believe that Herman Wouk is still alive? Over 100!
Can you believe that Herman Wouk is still alive? Over 100!
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