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re: The Three Body Problem or Red Rising for Next Book

Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:25 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 9:25 am to
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Like Tigris said: its a trilogy. You're going to want to read the whole series.


I've heard good things about TBP so was going to add it to my list, but like the post above I had no idea it was not a standalone.

As far as being a trilogy, do you NEED to read all 3 or are you saying that it's just so good that you'll want to? In other words if I just read the first one, when I'm done are there going to be like 50 unanswered questions left
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 10:59 am to
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if I just read the first one, when I'm done are there going to be like 50 unanswered questions left


Yes, it's one story in three books. I would not recommend reading just the first book.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:20 am to
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As far as being a trilogy, do you NEED to read all 3 or are you saying that it's just so good that you'll want to? In other words if I just read the first one, when I'm done are there going to be like 50 unanswered questions left


You will not get a resolution to the story if you don't read the trilogy.

I will say, though, that of all the people I have loaned the first book to, only one was interested enough to finish the series. Not because it's bad, but because they just couldn't get past all the Chinese names in the book and semi-hard dive into physics. Plus the Chinese political and cultural stuff kind of threw them for a loop.

That said, it is an outstanding series that really looks into Man's place in the universe.

Even knowing all of what I mentioned above, it is still a top 10 series for me, and I recommend it to anyone who asks.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:33 am to
dang ok, this is very helpful. I intentionally have avoided looking much into it becuase I like to go into a new book fresh, so all I really know about it is that it's kind of a sci/fi thing with some mind bending elements" which was intriguing. I don't think I'd be able to devote 3 books' worth of time though and knowing myself I think all the chinese names would probably throw me off. appreciate the insight.
Posted by PillPusher
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 11:49 am to
It only took me about 100 pages into 3BP before I realized I was reading one of the best sci-fi novels ever written. The entire trilogy is outstanding. Can’t recommend it enough.
Posted by hogfly
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:02 pm to
I'm on the final book of 3BP. It's definitely good, but it couldn't be more different that the Red Rising series. Red Rising is a page-turner3 with lots of action. 3BP is a legit work of literature that grapples with humanity's place in the universe and a ton of emerging scientific concepts.

I think that Red Rising would be for just about anyone as it's just a page turning action series. 3BP is like if Milan Kundera and Neal Stephenson had a lovechild who was raised in China.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted by PillPusher
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:17 pm to
I completely agree. I thoroughly enjoyed the Red Rising series and flew through those books. You are spot on in that they are entirely different types of series. I enjoyed both for what they were but 3BP was much deeper conceptually and spoke on a whole different level. Red Rising is very legit though after you get through the first book which was a tad “young-adultish” for my liking.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:26 pm to
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I don't think I'd be able to devote 3 books' worth of time


It would be worth it.

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I think all the chinese names would probably throw me off


You get used to it.

I would still suggest trying the first book to see if the Chinese names give you problems. Believe me, once you finish the first book, you're going to want to read the rest.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 3:11 pm to
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a ton of emerging scientific concepts.


do you need to have a scientific mind to be able to grasp the writer's point? Or can the layman still enjoy

Also, as mentioned I intentionally have avoided learning practically anything at all about the book so I don't even really have any idea what it's about. What is a general synopsis?
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/29/22 at 10:32 am to
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do you need to have a scientific mind to be able to grasp the writer's point


You don't. He does a really good job of either dumbing it down or explaining the concept to a layman.

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What is a general synopsis?


Chinese government is sending messages out into space. One day they receive a response. Its set in the backdrop of the Chinese Cultural Revolution, and the author does a good job of explaining this revolution and the mindset of the people impacted by it.

So, a response is received. How should they react? Respond in kind? What happens if they respond? Are the aliens friendly?

The book deals with man dealing with knowing there is other life out there. Factions form - governments, Bill Gates type billionaires involved - some with the aliens, some against the aliens. And they are working against each other because they believe what they're doing is for the benefit of mankind.

I don't want to say much more, because there is a pretty cool scene in the book when they receive the message, and the person who receives the message makes up her mind of what to do.

Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 12/29/22 at 10:49 am to
It gets more intense with the science in the second and third books but the foundation of the first book helps immensely. The fact that the show runners from GOT are adapting this is simultaneously hilarious and sad.
Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 4:08 am to
Just finished The Dark Forest (book 2 of three body) in 1 week which is a record for me because I’m a slow reader, this is already my new favorite series of all time. It’s absolutely incredible. The ending of book 2 was a tad anti-climactic but the whole rest of the book makes up for it. Can’t wait to start Death’s End today.
This post was edited on 8/16/23 at 4:12 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/16/23 at 7:34 pm to
I've read them all ... they're interesting. The science is decent, most of the time.

I enjoyed one and Dark more than Death's End. I was ready to get it overwith about midway through three.

Honestly, anytime I have recommended the trilogy to friends or family when asked about it ... I've recommended going the audio book route. Use your library card and download them for for free through Libby or Hoopla. I think listening to them in a dramatic presentation might be better than reading them.

Also heard a Chinese limited series is coming out with English voice-overs sometime next year on Netflix.

Posted by Big Chipper
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 7:07 am to
Red Rising is a really fun series. Well worth reading. I DNF'd Three Body Problem at around 33%. Dehydrating and rehydrating people was a little too stupid for me.
Posted by highanklesprain20
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Can’t wait to start Death’s End today.



best of the three, imo. really sticks the landing.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:10 pm to
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Red Rising is a really fun series. Well worth reading. I DNF'd Three Body Problem at around 33%. Dehydrating and rehydrating people was a little too stupid for me.


Uhhh.... that was in the vr "game."
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 8:35 pm to
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Uhhh.... that was in the vr "game."


Did you finish the book?

ETA: Now I'm questioning myself. Pretty sure there is more to the dehydrating thing than just the VR.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 8:38 pm
Posted by hogfly
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:08 pm to
I finished the entire series. The dehydration thing was a simulation of the issue the alien species was dealing with in their civilization, but it had nothing to do with humans. At least, that’s the way I understood it. I could definitely be wrong as the book isn’t exactly light reading.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 9:27 pm to
The dehydration simulation was to give the history and problems of Trisolaris to sympathetic humans while not overwhelming them and to help their eventual takeover of earth.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 8/21/23 at 10:54 am to
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Pretty sure there is more to the dehydrating thing than just the VR.



I always took it as the Trisolarans evolved to dehydrate themselves as a defense against the one of their suns burning the planet.
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