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How does Marvel Comics get things so wrong, and DC so right?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:02 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:02 am
It is the reverse of the cinematic universe.
DC doesn't make these massive overhauls for the sake of "diversity".
Marvel does.
Marvel's sales are in absolute freefall.
Marvel executive says emphasis on diversity may have alienated readers. Afterwards he caught all kinds of shite for being honest, so he backpedalled. Marvel then doubled down. Now all media sources seem to be falling all over themselves to say that the falling sales are ANYTHING but the fact that Marvel has alienated core fans from the core heroes.
DC has just been doing what they have always done. And they have now eclipsed Marvel in sales.
I think fans were OK with changing some characters. But, for example, they have changed every original Avenger except Giant Man.
Iron Man is a black woman
Thor is a woman
Hulk is an asian dude
Also Captain America is a black dude, and Steve is a Nazi member of Hydra.
*sigh*
It's just so hamfisted.
DC doesn't make these massive overhauls for the sake of "diversity".
Marvel does.
Marvel's sales are in absolute freefall.
Marvel executive says emphasis on diversity may have alienated readers. Afterwards he caught all kinds of shite for being honest, so he backpedalled. Marvel then doubled down. Now all media sources seem to be falling all over themselves to say that the falling sales are ANYTHING but the fact that Marvel has alienated core fans from the core heroes.
DC has just been doing what they have always done. And they have now eclipsed Marvel in sales.
I think fans were OK with changing some characters. But, for example, they have changed every original Avenger except Giant Man.
Iron Man is a black woman
Thor is a woman
Hulk is an asian dude
Also Captain America is a black dude, and Steve is a Nazi member of Hydra.
*sigh*
It's just so hamfisted.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 7:04 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:26 am to Roaad
It's the same thing happening to espn. Nobody wants politics emphasized in their entertainment, whether it's their sports, books, etc...
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:24 pm to Roaad
What? Is this shite real? I haven't kept up with comics in years, but... damn. That's pretty retarded.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:42 am to Roaad
WTF
I'm glad I quit reading comics years ago Bc they sure sound shorty now. I was a Thor and Xmen fan. I can only imagine what the Xmen have become. a bunch of gender folk---the LGBTQIAJWOPLKHG-non-binary-team!
I'm glad I quit reading comics years ago Bc they sure sound shorty now. I was a Thor and Xmen fan. I can only imagine what the Xmen have become. a bunch of gender folk---the LGBTQIAJWOPLKHG-non-binary-team!
Posted on 8/28/17 at 10:47 am to Roaad
The vast majority of comic readers has to be white males right?
Marvel has been shitting on them lately
Marvel has been shitting on them lately
Posted on 8/28/17 at 12:17 pm to Roaad
quote:
Also Captain America is a black dude
This doesn't bother me.
quote:
Steve is a Nazi member of Hydra
This bothers the shite out of me. It feels like a direct shot at anyone that takes pride in being an American. Basically equating any sort of national pride with the Nazis. Hamfisted is accurate.
Posted on 8/28/17 at 1:22 pm to ProjectP2294
Iron Man is actually a young black woman genius who inherits the suit (she'd actually made her own similar suit) because Tony Stark is in a coma. I actually really like this because Tony Stark is rich white genius playboy whereas this is actually meritocracy. There's actually something to be said for giving young girls (whether minority or not) strong Scientist role models.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:04 am to hogfly
Some people make bad bets.
Doing nothing new worked out this time.
Imho, one man at marvel pushed the new direction.
Doing nothing new worked out this time.
Imho, one man at marvel pushed the new direction.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 8:07 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:43 am to Roaad
quote:There is something about the old "Killing the golden goose" fable that apparently the folks at Marvel never got. But with these changes, that goose is killed and now cooking.
DC doesn't make these massive overhauls for the sake of "diversity".
Marvel does.
In case you need a refresher.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 8:46 am
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