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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 8/25/13 at 10:56 pm to Cosmo
Posted on 8/25/13 at 10:56 pm to Cosmo
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So I'm reading the Hedge Knight right now. Some knight says that when dragons are alive, winters are shorter. So with Dany's dragons around is this gonna be a short winter?
Maybe that was the case for those winters, but in the case of ASOIAF this would be the winter that lasts forever if the Others succeed. Am I wrong here?
It's crazy to think that "Winter" has been "Coming" for decades now in our world, hurry up GRRM.
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:38 am to TaxmanMSU
Well, FWIW, Winter officially arrived in the last book.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 7:49 am to TaxmanMSU
If GRRM is actually finishing the series in 2 books, then TWOW is going to be like the last 1/2 of ASOS. Every chapter will have major shite going down. The Wall will go down as well which is going to be huge.
And it's already winter
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And it's already winter
. Posted on 8/26/13 at 12:41 pm to ladytiger118
Someone created a Hodor account and posted in Cosmo's thread 
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Posted on 8/26/13 at 7:36 pm to ladytiger118
So, what are some of your guesses for episodes
Episode 1: The Red Viper (Tyrion meets the Red Viper)
Episode 2: Coldhands (Bran runs into Coldhands)
Episode 3: You Know Nothing (Ygritte dies in Jon's arms)
Episode 4: Widow's Wale (The Purple Wedding); Runner-up title: Growing Strong, The Game of Thrones
Episode 5: The Watcher on the Wall (The Siege of the Wall begins); Runner-up: The Wall is Yours, Oathkeeper
Episode 6: It Rhymes With Weak (Theon is recaptured by Ramsay after running away, Jon is arrested by Janos Slynt, Tyrion's trial begins); Runner-up: Our Blades are Sharp, Family Duty Honor
Episode 7: The Burning Heart (STANNIS!, "Not as your judge, as your champion"); Runner-up: The Horn of Winter, Ours is the Fury, The King Beyond the Wall
Episode 8: Elia (The Mountain vs the Red Viper); Runner-up title: Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken
Episode 9: A Lannister Pays His Debts (Tyrion kills Tywin); Runner-up title: Hear Me Roar, Wherever Whores Go, Hands of Gold
Episode 10: Stoneheart (Tywin's Funeral, Littlefinger pushes Lysa out the Moon Door, Stoneheart reveals herself and kills a Frey) ; Runner-up titles: The Moon Door, A Thousand Eyes and One, The Burning of the Hand
Episode 1: The Red Viper (Tyrion meets the Red Viper)
Episode 2: Coldhands (Bran runs into Coldhands)
Episode 3: You Know Nothing (Ygritte dies in Jon's arms)
Episode 4: Widow's Wale (The Purple Wedding); Runner-up title: Growing Strong, The Game of Thrones
Episode 5: The Watcher on the Wall (The Siege of the Wall begins); Runner-up: The Wall is Yours, Oathkeeper
Episode 6: It Rhymes With Weak (Theon is recaptured by Ramsay after running away, Jon is arrested by Janos Slynt, Tyrion's trial begins); Runner-up: Our Blades are Sharp, Family Duty Honor
Episode 7: The Burning Heart (STANNIS!, "Not as your judge, as your champion"); Runner-up: The Horn of Winter, Ours is the Fury, The King Beyond the Wall
Episode 8: Elia (The Mountain vs the Red Viper); Runner-up title: Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken
Episode 9: A Lannister Pays His Debts (Tyrion kills Tywin); Runner-up title: Hear Me Roar, Wherever Whores Go, Hands of Gold
Episode 10: Stoneheart (Tywin's Funeral, Littlefinger pushes Lysa out the Moon Door, Stoneheart reveals herself and kills a Frey) ; Runner-up titles: The Moon Door, A Thousand Eyes and One, The Burning of the Hand
Posted on 8/26/13 at 8:04 pm to OMLandshark
Oops
This post was edited on 8/26/13 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 8/26/13 at 8:18 pm to Dodd
Wrong thread, man.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:41 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
So, what are some of your guesses for episodes
Episode 1: The Red Viper (Tyrion meets the Red Viper)
Episode 2: Coldhands (Bran runs into Coldhands)
Episode 3: You Know Nothing (Ygritte dies in Jon's arms)
Episode 4: Widow's Wale (The Purple Wedding); Runner-up title: Growing Strong, The Game of Thrones
Episode 5: The Watcher on the Wall (The Siege of the Wall begins); Runner-up: The Wall is Yours, Oathkeeper
Episode 6: It Rhymes With Weak (Theon is recaptured by Ramsay after running away, Jon is arrested by Janos Slynt, Tyrion's trial begins); Runner-up: Our Blades are Sharp, Family Duty Honor
Episode 7: The Burning Heart (STANNIS!, "Not as your judge, as your champion"); Runner-up: The Horn of Winter, Ours is the Fury, The King Beyond the Wall
Episode 8: Elia (The Mountain vs the Red Viper); Runner-up title: Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken
Episode 9: A Lannister Pays His Debts (Tyrion kills Tywin); Runner-up title: Hear Me Roar, Wherever Whores Go, Hands of Gold
Episode 10: Stoneheart (Tywin's Funeral, Littlefinger pushes Lysa out the Moon Door, Stoneheart reveals herself and kills a Frey) ; Runner-up titles: The Moon Door, A Thousand Eyes and One, The Burning of the Hand
I pretty much agree with your assessment, except that maybe the Purple Wedding happens in episode 3? I think that's the episode GRRM is writing but I guess they haven't released which specific episode number it will be.
Also, in the Purple Wedding episode, do you think they'll have Dontos take her out of the wedding in the same episode/show Littlefinger on the ship, kill Dontos, and explain to Sansa how he and Olenna planned it out?
Then maybe episode 5 they'd show Petyr and Sansa traveling on the ship still and then reach the Fingers in episode 6 and the Eyrie in episode 7.
I could picture the last few minutes of episode 10 ending with the Moon Door and showing Lady Stoneheart killing Freys as the cliffhanger.
Now that I think about it, Season 4 will have some of the best quality episodes in the whole series. Every episode is going to be crazy
.Posted on 8/26/13 at 9:48 pm to ladytiger118
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Also, in the Purple Wedding episode, do you think they'll have Dontos take her out of the wedding in the same episode/show Littlefinger on the ship, kill Dontos, and explain to Sansa how he and Olenna planned it out?
Yep. It's the perfect ending to the episode with Littlefinger giving the title shout. I just think they'll arrest Tyrion, Cersei will ask where his bitch wife is, and then they'll cut down to the shore of the Red Keep, where Dontos has guided her to a small boat. They then go across the bay, with Littlefinger revealing himself, kills Dontos, and then asks Littlefinger why he killed Dontos. Littlefinger will tell her that he set all this up with the wedding, and that he did it for the sake of the Game of Thrones. He'll explain the details in the next episode onboard his boat.
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:19 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 8/26/13 at 10:25 pm to OMLandshark
pretty sure PW is ep 2. george is writing it.
it better end with lf saying "the only game, the game of thrones"
it better end with lf saying "the only game, the game of thrones"
Posted on 8/26/13 at 11:07 pm to Carson123987
PW episode needs to end with that line, and one of the last lines in the finale should be "Only Cat!!" Otherwise I will extremely pissed off because that's one of the best/most memorable lines in the series.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:14 am to Carson123987
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pretty sure PW is ep 2. george is writing it.
I don't see why people think it's safe to assume this. Sure he wrote Blackwater, but the other 2 episodes he wrote didn't have particularly large events happen in them.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:28 am to OMLandshark
Episode 7 last season wasn't that good and George wrote it. The bear pit scene wasn't as good as the books and Jaime's dream was omitted 
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. Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:07 pm to ladytiger118
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I don't see why people think it's safe to assume this
Because there are way too many things that have to happen AFTER the PW. Episode 4 would be too late. Episode 2, 3 at the latest.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 5:21 pm to ffishstik
I'm going with Episode 3. I think 4 is too late.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 6:00 pm to ffishstik
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Because there are way too many things that have to happen AFTER the PW. Episode 4 would be too late. Episode 2, 3 at the latest.
Ehh, only Tyrion, Sansa, and Brienne are directly immediately affected by it. You could juggle some things forward, specifically with Jaime, and make them before the Purple Wedding.
Plus you need for Tyrion to bond with Tywin over what went on with the Red Viper, and Tyrion and the Red Viper to bond a bit before it. I think there's really no way the Purple Wedding happens in Episode 2, although its possible for 3 (although I think they'll kill Ygrette there instead).
This post was edited on 8/27/13 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:50 pm to OMLandshark
The Ygritte scene is going to make me shed a few tears, no doubts about it.
I want to see Jon with Val in the next book. He deserves another strong wildling woman!!
I want to see Jon with Val in the next book
. He deserves another strong wildling woman!!Posted on 8/27/13 at 8:59 pm to TaxmanMSU
Speaking of dragons and winter, If the others could somehow kill a dragon, could they create some kind of wight dragon? They've been able to create other wight animals. I guess it could work if the dead dragon wasn't able to breathe fire.
Posted on 8/27/13 at 9:02 pm to dtmb
A wight dragon would be badass. There's some theories about stone dragons in/under the Wall and living underneath the crypts in Winterfell and in Dragonstone.
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