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re: American history book recommendations

Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:19 am to
Posted by WaderWebb
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:19 am to
Posted by lsugorilla
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:52 pm to
Was going to post Empire of the Summer Moon. I see that is already posted. Also agree on Devil in the White City.
I’ll add Undaunted Courage by Stephen Ambrose
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:53 am to
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My father in law really enjoys American history


Is he open-minded enough to consider out-of-mainstream sources that challenge the mainstream versions of "History"? If so, things get reeeally interesting & eye-popping (and start making sense and getting spooky.)

Posted by Tmcgin
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 11:39 am to
Really into ghost writers are we?
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 1:04 pm to
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I didn't know that Jefferson twice attempted affairs with married women, including one who accused him of trying to force himself on her.

I didn't know that Sally Hemings was the half-sister of Jefferson's late wife Martha.

I didn't know that, while the two of them disliked each other before this, the deep bitterness that existed between Jefferson and Patrick Henry was the result of an "inquiry" that the Virginia House of Delegates did into Jefferson's conduct as Virginia governor.


Didn't know any of this either -- the "History" books aren't exactly forthcoming on so much.

Sounds like a fascinating read.
Posted by s0tiger
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Posted on 2/12/23 at 5:13 pm to
Young Men and Fire is great too. Account of Forestry Service Smoke Jumpers in 1949.

Young Men and Fire
Posted by beachdude
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:25 pm to
Read every book by David McCullough. Each one is very well written about interesting subject matter. Over time, you will acquire substantial knowledge of U.S. history and it will make you reflect upon what it means to be an American and appreciate the efforts of your forebears.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:25 am to
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I didn't know that Jefferson twice attempted affairs with married women, including one who accused him of trying to force himself on her.

I didn't know that Sally Hemings was the half-sister of Jefferson's late wife Martha.

I didn't know that, while the two of them disliked each other before this, the deep bitterness that existed between Jefferson and Patrick Henry was the result of an "inquiry" that the Virginia House of Delegates did into Jefferson's conduct as Virginia governor.

I didn't know that Jefferson wanted to end slavery, but he feared a race war.


Did the book cover James Callender? He was a journalist always digging up dirt on political figures of the time. Callender and Jefferson worked together to trash Hamilton in the press. He basically ended Hamilton's career by publishing an expose on how Hamilton slept with another man's wife and also had corrupt financial dealings. Hamilton wrote a public response admitting to the affair but denying that he had corrupt financial dealings. Hamilton claimed the woman's husband tried to blackmail him for money or else he would go public with the affair.

Jefferson promised Callender a government job, but never followed through on the promise. As a result, Callender began attacking Jefferson and wrote that Jefferson had children with Sally Hemming. Jefferson never publicly responded to the allegation (though today, through DNA, we know it's true).

Callender was later found floating in the river. The official story was that he was drunk and fell off a pier.
Posted by Locoguan0
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:06 pm to
McCullough - The Path Between the Seas. It's about the building of the Panama Canal. Pretty fascinating the problems that has to be overcome.

Ambrose - Undaunted Courage
Lansing - Endurance, about Shackleton's ill-fated voyage.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:08 pm to
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Did the book cover James Callender?


Yes, but I wouldn't say that there was a whole lot more about Callender than what you just posted.

But lots and lots of people repeatedly talked about the Jefferson-Hemings relationship during Jefferson's lifetime -- Callender was far from the only one.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Lansing - Endurance, about Shackleton's ill-fated voyage.


Great book, but not American history.
Posted by Hiyoka
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:22 pm to
I’m halfway through the James Madison biography by Jay Cost and it’s very enlightening about the writing of our constitution and founding fathers - will surprise the states rights folks here.

Highly recommend
Posted by Hiyoka
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:23 pm to
Brian Kilmead and Bill O’Reilly - haa
Posted by tccdc
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:54 pm to
Killers of the FLower Moon - Osage Murders story I had no clue about and really enjoyed

Braddocks Defeat - The Battle of the Mongahela great history on the kickoff of the French Indian War

Isaac's Storm - a little slow at first, but Erik Larson's first book. A tale of the Galveston Hurricane...really shows how far we have advanced in certain things
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:20 pm to
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Book on Jackson sounds interesting , thanks !


It’s great
Posted by LSUMaverick
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Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:44 am to
I bought this book and I'll start on it after I finish what I'm reading now.

Amazon-My Dear Wife and Children: Civil War Letters from a 2nd Minnesota Volunteer

Posted by selfgen
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:50 pm to
Kilmead is a good writer then? You enjoy his work? I’ve never read anything of his and I was kind of skeptical when I first heard that he had written some books, on history. You’ll have to pardon me but I had him pigeon-holed as a television hack only. What can you tell me about him?
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:55 pm to
He’s written a couple of books I liked one about Jefferson and the Barbary coast and another about Jackson and the battle of New Orleans. I couldn’t get into the one about Washington’s spy ring
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 4/10/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Isaac's Storm - a little slow at first, but Erik Larson's first book. A tale of the Galveston Hurricane...really shows how far we have advanced in certain things


I read this a few months back… was on a hurricane kick for some reason…. Then went straight to Eric Jay Dolins Furious sky- a 500 year history of American hurricanes

What’s crazy is reading an entire book about the Galveston hurricane and then Dolin writes like 2 sentences about the same event almost as an afterthought
This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by arkansas tiger
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Posted on 5/30/23 at 9:07 pm to
Kilmeade’s books are written by a ghost writer.
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