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Taos, NM

Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by Tigers13
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:16 am
I'm looking at doing a road trip with my three older children (ages 5, 7, and 9; wife will be home w/ the baby) and I want go somewhere with cooler temps. We've done Highlands, NC and really enjoyed but thinking of traveling West this time. Plan would be to leave BR during the first week of August, stay a night in Dallas, and then a night in Santa Fe, and then spend a few nights in Taos. Looking for suggestions on things to do w/ kids that age in all three places.

We've done hikes with them before. Probably ~3 miles would be the limit for the 5 year old and there would need to be a payoff (waterfall, swimming hole) along the way. Would also like to do some rafting, something with an intensity that a 5 year old could handle.

I'll likely take them to the JFK museum in Dallas but other than that, don't have anything else set in stone.

Looking for suggestions on places to eat, any excellent breweries worth stocking up at, pit stops on the way back for a night, and any suggestions on activities that would be good for kids that age. We're also open to day trips from Taos if there's anything worth checking out in that area.
Posted by idontyield
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:27 am to
Not sure if you've been to Taos but it is pretty scuzzy. There is the nice area then unbelievable poverty, guess that is all of New Mexico. And New Mexico will be hot, maybe not BR hot but still hot.

Taos Ranchos Plaza Grill is amazing, I am tempted all the time to make the 5 hr drive from Denver just to eat there. There is rafting south of Taos but not sure if it will be running in August. Not sure what if anything is at the ski hill in the summer.

Santa Fe you should go to Meow Wolf and Tent Rocks is a cool hike that kids can do. Plenty of places to eat there that I will let others cover.
Posted by Tigers13
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:51 am to
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Not sure if you've been to Taos but it is pretty scuzzy.


Did not know this. I went with my parents probably ~30 years ago for a ski trip so really don't remember much. I figured it was a typical ski resort town.
Posted by 03GeeTee
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:04 pm to
The Taos Ski Valley won’t be hot since it’s at high elevation. There’s nice hiking there too. The actual city of Taos will be hot though.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:26 pm to
Taos ski area has the best hiking. If you drive up to the Bavarian Restaurant, there are trail heads there and one goes to Williams Lake that is an easy, shaded trail to the lake. it takes a little over an hour one way to the lake. If you head to the right around the lake, there is a waterfall behind the lake. There is also a gondola you can ride up the mountain from the Restaurant. Coming back from the ski area you will go through Arroyo Seco which has a great ice cream shop called Taos Cow. Closer to town, The South Boundary Trail is nice but no waterfalls. And you will see mountainbikers on the trail riding over from Angel Fire.

To say Taos is scuzzy is just ridiculous. I don't why someone would say that. The food in Taos is not great compared to Santa Fe. The best New Mexcian enchiladas I've found are at Alley Cantina, Taos Outback Pizza is good, Medley is a more upscale place that is good. For beer, Eske's Brewpub was fantastic but the pandemic killed it. Other than that Taos Mesa Brewpub is mediocre beer and pizza. The best place for beer Taos Ale House/ Burger Stand which has a good beer selection and good burgers.
For rafting that will be a crap shoot in the summer. But Salida is only 2 hours north and a great little town with a river that is very kid friendly for tubing and kayaking. I would consider spending a night or 2 here. Buena Vista is just 30 minutes away and has several big rafting companies there. Honestly, between Taos and Salida, I would pick Salida.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Tigers13
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Honestly, between Taos and Salida, I would pick Salida.



Awesome, thanks for the info. I'm starting to think maybe 2 nights in Santa Fe and 2-3 nights in Salida.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:18 pm to
If you're up for going a little further North, then try Red River, NM. It's very family friendly with a lot to do and enough restaurants to keep you fed.

We have a couple condos there and go quite a bit.
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 5:19 pm to
pagosa springs also a good recommendation.
Posted by hogfly
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:01 pm to
Zappa's Stache is on the money.

We spend a LOT of time in New Mexico (my 14 year old said the other day, "I think I've been to New Mexico like 30 times at least," so I know the area.

Santa Fe and Taos will be hot.. but it is a dry heat. Nothing like Arkansas or Louisiana in the summer. Taos is NOT scuzzy at all (there ARE a lot of hippies and street kid types), but I do confess that we've had a hard time really gelling with the town despite spending a lot of time trying. Santa Fe just has so much, whereas Taos's offerings are a little more subtle.

Salida is a great option if you want to escape the heat. Pagosa Springs is also a good option. Someone suggested Red River, and I think that is also a good option with some side-by-side tours and such available there which would be fun.

We're out here for a few weeks right now gearing up for mountain bike nationals. Currently in Durango, which I haven't been to since college years, and I'm loving it. Really beautiful town with a lot of actual charm (something I find lacking in a lot of Colorado Mountain Towns, which can just feel so cultureless and commercial).
Posted by Tigers13
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 6:46 am to
Thanks for the info. Both Durango and Pagosa Springs have piqued my interest. I'm leaning towards Pagosa b/c it's a little bit closer and the drive goes through Santa Fe where I'd like to stop for a night or two. I'm assuming Santa Fe would be a better stop than Alburquerque which I have heard is scuzzy. Driving to Durango would pass through Alburquerque. The hiking in Durango looks awesome but most of what I'd want to do would probably be too difficult for the kids (summitting the 14k'ers). I want to do the Silverton Train ride with them so we could possibly head to Durango from there for a day trip. Do you think a 5 year old could handle the Hogsback Ridge Trail hike? Also any suggestions for things to do w/ kids in Santa Fe?
Posted by hogfly
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:19 am to
I would definitely stop in Santa Fe over ABQ. I would aim for staying either downtown near the Plaza or in the Railyard. Honestly, with kids of that age, the Railyard might be a better location. Lots of AirBNBs in Santa Fe, but for a single night, the fees aren't always worth it. If you're not picky the Sage Inn is a decent remodeled motorcourt style in a really good location. There are also really, really upscale hotels in downtown if you're more into that (La Fonda, Inn of the Five Graces, etc..).

Things to do: Meow Wolf, which is a no brainer. Walk around the Railyard and the Plaza. Eat some New Mexican food (it's hot, if you've never had it before). Lots of hiking. Lots of museums. Someone suggested Tent Rocks, which is awesome. Unfortunately, I believe it's still closed due to COVID (it's on NA lands, and they've been very strict with COVID).

Nambe Falls is a fun nearby hike that lets the kids get wet. That age probably won't be able to go all the way up the falls, as the climbing is pretty difficult at spots. But short hikes let you see the falls from both above and below. Only open Thursday-Monday.

In either Durango or Pagosa Springs, you have rivers running through town. You can rent floaties, SUPs or kayaks and float through the town, which the kids will enjoy. I'm not sure on the Hogsback Ridge Trail, as I haven't ever done it.

When you go from SF to Pagosa Springs, you will pass through Abiqui, which is where Georgia O'Keefe lived. There is a nice visitor center with people who are very helpful on things to do in the area. I wouldn't do the O'Keefe home tour with kids that young. You can, though, go swim at Lake Abiqui (there are some short cliffs you can jump off). There's also a doable hike at Phantom Ranch and a natural Amphitheater called Echo Amphitheater on the drive that's awesome.

This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 8:25 am
Posted by idontyield
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:00 am to
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To say Taos is scuzzy is just ridiculous. I don't why someone would say that

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Taos is NOT scuzzy at all




quote:

there ARE a lot of hippies and street kid types


So 3rd world poverty and people who don’t bathe is not scuzzy?

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:23 am to
if you go to BV/Salida for a couple nights you will wonder why you didn’t just go there in the first place. There is hiking, biking, hot springs, rafting, ghost towns, mountain passes, creeks, rivers, good food & drink and the area is clean, safe, very pretty and 100% kid friendly
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:28 am to
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I want to do the Silverton Train ride with them so we could possibly head to Durango from there for a day trip.
that’s a VERY long day from pagosa springs. It would be closer to book the royal gorge train near canon city
Posted by CBDTiger
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 5:58 pm to
Been to that part of NM pretty often and keep going back. Rafting the Rio Grande could be an option depending on how steady the monsoon rains have been, though with younger kids you wouldn't be looking for wild rapids anyway.

Taos is a neat town, heavy on adobe and art galleries, and might be a day trip or quick tour and lunch spot. I second Taos Pizza Out Back for pizza. The ski area may be of more interest with kids, and I've always wanted to do the Williams Lake hike (but haven't yet). Williams Lake: 4.2 miles out and back trail

The Valle Vidal in Carson Nat'l Forest is beautiful, but might not keep kids interest very long. Accessible by a dirt road, flat tires are common (though it gets a lot of traffic in the summer). I drove from the western entrance to Shuree Ponds (old forest service camp) and ran over an ATV key in the road about 5 miles from the entrance on the way back. I had a plug kit and was on my way pretty quickly. Valle Vidal

A drive around the Enchanted Circle from Taos to Questa, Red River, Eagle Nest, Angel Fire and back to Taos is a nice trip. The Comanche Creek Brewery in Eagle Nest has an awesome view. I was there early July and they had a food truck run by an AL girl who had gumbo and fried okra.

Red River has a lot to do and at 9,000+ feet is always cool or mild. Bobcat Pass has horseback riding, ATVs and "Cowboy Evenings" 3 nights a week. Plenty for kids to do (roping, horseshoes, games, etc) plus a steak dinner, dutch oven biscuits, etc. with a concert by Syd Masters, who puts on a great show. It's gotten pricier since we last went with our then-teenage kids in 2019 but the steak was tasty and all had a great time, even if it was a little hokey at times. Family friendly and no alcohol. Bobcat Pass / Cowboy Evening

If you're coming via Hwy 64, the drive through Cimarron Canyon is nice, even after the fires (the Palisades are worth stopping for pics). Cimarron itself is on Hwy 64 and has a few places worth stopping at. Blu Dragonfly has great burgers and craft beer (now brewed in Raton). The St. James Hotel has Lambert's saloon and restaurant with bullet holes in the ceiling from the 1870's wild west days. Also said to be haunted. Hiker's Coffee is a great coffee shop with ice cream and snacks. Kathleen's Burrito Banquet food trailer for burritos, and the owner (Kathleen) is a sweetheart who always open carries (closed Tuesdays).

Philmont Scout Ranch is just down Hwy 21 from Cimarron. 140k+ acres and houses the national Boy Scouts of America museum and a Kit Carson museum just down the road, where members of the public can try blacksmithing and tomahawk throwing. Also has chickens and goats and homesteader homes and an old chapel. My son worked there two summers. Kit Carson museum at Rayado

Cold Beer NM (Colfax Tavern) has tons of draft beer, live music music most weekends, cornhole, and is family friendly. If you're there the first weekend of August it will be a zoo, as that's the annual Honkytonk Hodgepodge, with 30 bands on 2 stages over 2 days. Mostly bands from CO and TX and quite an experience - I was there last year. Many attendees camp for 2-3 days in the scrub areas around the bar. As they say, it's where nothing much happens but you better be there when it does. Honkytonk Hodgepodge VII
Enjoy!

Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:03 pm to
Well I just found out Charley Crockett lives in Taos now. Friend who lives in taos ran into him at a bar there and hung out with him for a while. If you don't know who Charley Crockett is, Google his music, maybe you'll run into him in Taos.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 6:04 pm
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
496 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:11 pm to
Angel Fire is 22 miles from Taos. It is supposedly the best mountains biking in the U.S. and top 3 in the world. I was there last week and it looked like a lot of fun. Temps were 70s during the day and upper 40s early morning.
Posted by Tigers13
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2005
1758 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:40 am to
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that’s a VERY long day from pagosa springs. It would be closer to book the royal gorge train near canon city


Help me out here, from Pagosa Springs, the drive to Canon City/Royal Gorge is 3.5 hrs. The drive to Durange&Silverton Narrow Gauge is only 1 hr. Am I missing something?
Posted by Tigers13
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2005
1758 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:53 am to
So I scratched Taos as a final destination and now we're heading to Pagosa Springs. Here's tentative itinerary. I wish I had two more days but we'll make the most of it.

Day 1 (leaving after work ~4pm from BR)-Drive to Tyler, Tx
Day 2 Drive to Amarillo. See Route 66 stuff, eat at Big Texan, Palo Duro Canyon
Day 3 Drive to Santa Fe - Eat at Shed or La Choza, Meow Wolf, historic area, Star Gazing/Astronomy tour (still trying to figure this out; would appreciate any suggestions)
Day 4 Bandelier (booked a guide for this) and maybe Puye Cliffs. Wish Tent Rocks was open but looks to still be closed for Covid. Drive to Pagosa (Staying at The Springs Resort)
Day 5 Hangout in Pagosa, hot springs, Tubing, Treasure Falls, Rocky Mt Wildlife, Chimney Rock, Riff Raff Brewery
Day 6 Raft & Ride one way on the Silverton Durango Train and then a rafting excursion.
Day 7 Start heading back with 2 stops: Amarillo (this one is still tentative) and Dallas.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
2798 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:28 am to
Palo Duro Canyon is a decent round trip drive south of I-40 so be prepared to lose some travel time if you make that excursion. Hiking is not advised in PDC this time of year. The Big Texan is a tourist trap but good for your kids given their ages.
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