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Question about the new MSY

Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 7:18 pm
So are they replacing all the parking garages and the rental car facility?

Literally hundreds of millions dumped into those things and the rental car facility is very new.

I still think its dumb this is being built. A centralized security area could have been made in the old airport then connect Concources B-D somehow.

But Mitch's buddies will make millions off this new airport, we all know thats whats going on here
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

So are they replacing all the parking garages and the rental car facility?

I'd assume they'd be keeping the rental car facility and maybe add a shuttle to get to/from it. Don't know about the existing parking garages but I'd assume they'd keep them for additional parking. Also they are keeping one of the buildings for private fights.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8568 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:50 pm to
I was just at MSY today and noticed all the construction. Are they demolishing the old one? Doesn't seem like anything is wrong with it honestly. The traffic design around the airport is the worst I've ever seen though, am I the only one to think that?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58162 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:01 pm to
You don't know much about this do you?
Hundreds of million?
MSY has needed this for a long time and it's going to be awesome
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
5346 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:16 pm to
Last I heard concourse A (which hasn't been used for years) and B will be torn down. Supposedly C and D will remain for charter/private planes.

New airport sadly is already to small and probably won't take many years until an expansion will be needed.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
5346 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:20 pm to
Airport needs a better customs system. MSY is extremely outdated and with a newer airport new more airlines will be willing to serve NOLA.

New rental car place was built (along with the other renovations) for the Super Bowl a few years ago. They should be able to use a shuttle system from new airport to rental car place.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:57 pm to
They're keeping the rental car facility, parking garages, and D terminal for charter services.

Shuttle will be used between airport and rental car facility and the garages for long term parking.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37120 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

They're keeping the rental car facility, parking garages, and D terminal for charter services.

Shuttle will be used between airport and rental car facility and the garages for long term parking.


I think they are keeping C for airport offices, and I believe they are building a garage on the north side, but will also keep the current garages as well for longer term and extra parking.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7353 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:49 pm to
If you know anything about Louisiana politics you know they don't think past their current term. We are very inefficient with tax revenue... gotta spend it, even if frivolously, before your term is up so you can grease the hands of the voters via kickbacks.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:23 pm to
There has been talk of a new airport for decades. Get out of here with the same old kick back bullshite. MSY is a dump and inefficient with NOLA becoming a tourist hub a new airport is needed.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37120 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:30 am to
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Question about the new MSY
There has been talk of a new airport for decades. Get out of here with the same old kick back bullshite. MSY is a dump and inefficient with NOLA becoming a tourist hub a new airport is needed.


I actually think they should have waited a little longer, get more use out of the upgrades they did at MSY, and plan for an entire new airport, a truly regional airport with regional control. That would require the city giving up control, of course.

But eventually if the flight numbers continue to grow, we are going to need a third runway, capable of large jets, and putting a third runway at MSY is a very, very complex situation, if it's possible at all.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:54 am to
quote:

If you know anything about Louisiana politics you know they don't think past their current term. We are very inefficient with tax revenue... gotta spend it, even if frivolously, before your term is up so you can grease the hands of the voters via kickbacks.


While true, just a point of clarification. The project is bonded out and paid for by the airlines and landing fees/gate leases.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:56 am to
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But eventually if the flight numbers continue to grow, we are going to need a third runway, capable of large jets, and putting a third runway at MSY is a very, very complex situation, if it's possible at all.


MSY can handle any size jet. And there are plenty busier airports that only have two runways. The main issue currently is that you can't have simultaneous takeoffs and/or landings.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37120 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:59 am to
quote:

MSY can handle any size jet.


quote:

The main issue currently is that you can't have simultaneous takeoffs and/or landings.


I've heard from several pilots that MSY struggles with wide-body aircraft. They can handle one or two, but to handle larger numbers would be an issue.

As far as simultaneous takeoffs and landings, is that an issue of just two runways, or is it the fact that the two are perpendicular? In either event, wouldn't a third runway that was truly seperate help out here?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I've heard from several pilots that MSY struggles with wide-body aircraft. They can handle one or two, but to handle larger numbers would be an issue.


Ah...I thought you were talking about runway length, not gate access. Yes, currently they can only handle a few wide-bodies from my understanding. The new terminal will aid in that.

quote:

As far as simultaneous takeoffs and landings, is that an issue of just two runways, or is it the fact that the two are perpendicular? In either event, wouldn't a third runway that was truly seperate help out here?



Since they are perpendicular and intersect, you cannnot have simultaneous activity. If they built a new runway, it would likely be parallel to 11/29 which is the longer one that runs east-west. Some cargo buildings would likely need to be relocated.

I'd put the 3rd runway as a low-prioritiy, though.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37120 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

.I thought you were talking about runway length, not gate access. Yes, currently they can only handle a few wide-bodies from my understanding. The new terminal will aid in that.


Yeah. I know the runway is fine. I was hoping the new terminal would be built to better handle the wide-body aircraft. But I had not read that specifically in all the coverage of it.

Since you seem like you know a bit, let me ask you this. If a new airport was built with two parallel runways, I would assume it could handle more traffic than the current t-bone configuration at MSY?

I just don't realistically see a third runway at MSY. Probably the best chance they had was one on the north side of the east-west current runway, which is where the new terminal will now sit. and even that would have required moving FBO to the south side.
Posted by Maniac979
The Great State of Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1904 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:35 am to
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Since they are perpendicular and intersect, you cannnot have simultaneous activity.


Why not? It's done at HOU, LGA and others
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115979 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:43 am to
A 3rd runway really isn't necessary for MSY.

MSY is an absolute dump even with the renos.

It really needed to be modernized in terms of security checkpoints, gate access, immigration, ammenities, etc.

Need a much more modern airport for such a tourist city.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:45 am to
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Why not? It's done at HOU, LGA and others



You cannot have a takeoff and landing occuring on intersecting runways simultaneously. You can have a plane in position for takeoff while another is landing on the perpendicular runway, but the bird taking off isn't going to be cleared until landing plane has touched down and moving off to a taxiway.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14735 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:17 pm to
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Need a much more modern airport for such a tourist city.



All of the reasons you listed is why a new one is currently under construction.
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