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Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:34 pm
Got restaurants down pretty good, but obviously any suggestions would be welcome.

Wineries I am attempting to narrow it down. I am not looking to spend $100 + per person per tasting or anything like that, and from what I can see just in the past year, prices for tastings have exploded (places that were $45 a year ago are now getting into the 60s and 70s).

But recommendations are appreciated...especially if you know any that have a decent White selection, with a preference towards unoaked and non-buttery (i know... its Napa).
Posted by La Squared
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2012
470 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 1:58 pm to
If you search on here there are quite a few Napa threads that have recommendations. Not a fan of whites so can’t really offer much insight.
Posted by whatchamacallit
Moulin Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
632 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:31 pm to
Not sure if you are interested in sparkling whites or not,but Schramsburg, Domaine Carneros, and Chandon have great experiences and fantastic selections. Stags Leap, Cake Bread and Honig have delicious Sauvignon Blancs.... those might be worth a visit as well.

California likes to push their Chardonnay game, but it's all usually buttery and oaked....but their Sauvignon Blancs are ususally less buttery...just depends on the maker.
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:35 pm to
Def doing Carneros, was thinking of doing Chandon, hadn't looked into Schramburg, thanks for that rec.

Hadn't looked into Honig either will give it a gander. Stag's Leap I just assumed would be on the very pricey end of the spectrum given their reputation.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/28/22 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35564 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 3:02 pm to
Chateau Montelena. Not sure about pricing but arguably the most famous Napa vineyard because of 1976. It’s the only wine club I’ve remained a member of.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115962 posts
Posted on 12/28/22 at 3:05 pm to
#1 on my list and definitely plan on going. Ever since I saw Bottle Shock years ago I wanted to go there.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32713 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Got restaurants down pretty good, but obviously any suggestions would be welcome.

Ad Hoc is a must eat.
Posted by Junkyard Hog
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
247 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:13 am to
Schramsberg and Chateau Montelena are our favorites.

Arista in Healdsburg is great too.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35564 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 8:24 am to
Having a burger and a shake at Gott's Roadside for lunch one day is a must. Great burger!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/29/22 at 9:21 am to
Was planning on doing Gott's Roadside for lunch one day, and Addendum another day (instead of doing Ad Hoc at night), but may do Ad Hoc as well.

Definitely doing Press one night, might try and do Auberge for lunch one day for the view.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115962 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 9:26 am to
I gave it a moment's consideration to attempt to get a res at French Laundry, but I just cannot see myself spending 1000+ on a meal. I've eaten at some great places around the world but never paid that level of price.

I'd probably rather just eat at Ad Hoc or Bouchon if I really want to try Keller
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12375 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 11:56 am to
Domaine Chandon is an interesting winery tour with a nice tasting room. Same with Chateau Monteleana. They have some great wines for tasting and the Japanese gardens are pretty.

I have never been to Bouchon in Napa but I have been to the one in Vegas a couple of times and it is very good.

If you want a casual restaurant owned by a celebrity chef I would suggest Bistro Jeanty.

Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
713 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 4:35 am to
quote:

might try and do Auberge for lunch one day for the view.


Do it. The views are worth it alone. Service is great, food is above average, and the prices are reasonable. My wife and I loved it.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 6:21 pm to
Bistro don Giovanni is one of my favs.
Rutherford and R+D are owned by the previous owners of Houston's. Food is usually pretty good.
Cole's Chophouse is another idea.

Grgich Hills!!!
Domaine Carneros is a must.
Rombauer has beautiful gardens, and I love their wines.
Stags Leap are rather stuck up.
Hawkes Wine in Alexander Valley-Sonoma is lovely, and awesome reds.
Artesa has nice patio/balcony with nice views on a pretty day.

Some tourists love the Wine Train.
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Tha Herg
Herget Dorm
Member since Jul 2009
2924 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:13 pm to
What’s the recommendation to get around? Uber easily available or do you recommend hiring a private driver? I’m staying mid-valley.
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
3673 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:48 pm to
We just went 2 weeks ago (second week of December). Granted, we went to high-end wineries (I buy from all of these wineries). We also ate well. Several of these are not available to the general public, unless you already buy from them. We received complimentary tastings/tours from those that we already buy from. The others charged from $75-$150 per person, but all definitely worth it.

Here is my recommendation, in order of preference:

1. Colgin (Ann Colgin - from Waco, Texas)
2. Peter Michael (Sir Peter Michael)
3. Fantesca (Heidi Barrett is their winemaker who made the iconic wine for years at Screaming Eagle)
4. Opus One (owned by Mondavi and Baron Philippine de Rothschild)
5. Darioush (did wine and olive oil tasting)
6. Chappellet
7. Quintessa
8. Far Niente (also owns Nickel & Nickel)
9. Nickel & Nickel (also owns Far Niente)
10. Joseph Phelps
11. Silver Oak
12. Schramsberg (mainly sparkling wine (not my favorite), but JD Davies is a good cabernet)

I realize that Colgin and Peter Michael are not open to the general public, but you might know someone who can get you in. They both make some of the best wines in Valley, but very expensive.

On food, French Laundry was amazing as was Bistro Jeanty. Third choice was Bistro Don Giovani, an affordable Italian restaurant. We ate twice (on arrival and on departure) at Eiko’s at Oxbow Market and it was great sushi.

We ate lunch and loved Mustard’s, Oakville Grocery and Gott’s Roadside. We had breakfast several times at Model Bakery (St. Helena), but they also have a location in Napa and both locations have sandwiches for lunch. We dined at St. Helena’s Bistro for a casual first night dinner and it was ok, but nothing special. We loved the Napa Farmer's Market on Saturdays and Tuesday, but it might be closed now for the winter.

We stayed for 6 days and did 2 tastings per day (3 per day on 2 days), so we drove ourselves in a rental car. If you do 3 or more, you should probably hire a driver (drunk driving could be a problem). We had access to a house in St. Helena and it was a fantastic location.

Hope this helps. Make sure to make tasting appointments several weeks in advance. The only low for December, the vineyards were all brown and barren, but we expected that. We didn't have a lot of traffic and reservations (for meals and tastings) were easier. The temps were low of 32 to high of 55. We didn't go to Auberge this trip (but we have gone before), but someone mentioned it above and I would definitely recommend having lunch on the porch. The views and food are great.

Cheers!
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96201 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 11:59 pm to
Cahebread was my favorite
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:48 pm to
wine tasting driver is great!
Posted by Humpty Grumpy
Member since Dec 2021
53 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:58 pm to
Lots of good recs above, without knowing your palate, here are a few to look at in ‘reasonably priced’ category

Turnbull
Freemark Abbey
Elyse
Aonair
Amizetta
Trespass
BRION
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