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First time out of the country, what do I do about cash?

Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18287 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:53 pm
I'll be in Colombia this weekend. Can I use my Visa debit card like normal? Is it better to get money exchanged somewhere? Prepaid debit?
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32713 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 2:55 pm to
Applies to all countries, not sure about Colombia specifically:

If your card doesn't have foreign transaction fees, just do that. Otherwise, get some local currency.

If you're going to a touristy area, they may take American cash, but they set their own exchange rates that are never in your favor.

If you do use your card, make sure to call your bank and let them know where you will be traveling so they don't cancel your card.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3918 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Applies to all countries, not sure about Colombia specifically:

If your card doesn't have foreign transaction fees, just do that. Otherwise, get some local currency.

If you're going to a touristy area, they may take American cash, but they set their own exchange rates that are never in your favor.

If you do use your card, make sure to call your bank and let them know where you will be traveling so they don't cancel your card.


All of this. I use my card as much as possible, but always get a little local cash, just in case I need it. Some places are still cash oriented, but most will take cards these days.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35561 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:04 pm to
I would advise strongly against using a debit card in a foreign country. At an ATM yes but do not use it to purchase goods. You're leaving your bank account at risk. Terrible idea.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3918 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

I would advise strongly against using a debit card in a foreign country. At an ATM yes but do not use it to purchase goods. You're leaving your bank account at risk. Terrible idea.


Whoa, didn't catch the debit part. Yeah, if you don't have a CC that doesn't have foreign transaction fees, I would just get cash from an ATM when you arrive.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18287 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:20 pm to
So can I just walk up to an ATM when I land, put my card in and withdraw Colombian pesos? I called Chase and they said they don't issue travel notifications for Colombia for whatever reason.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3918 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:33 pm to
Yes. You will be charged a few bucks (depends on bank), but it's cheaper than exchanging USD at one of the airport kiosks.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
8485 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:49 pm to
Agree with others. Get some local cash via ATM and try and use no foreign transaction fee credit card for as much as possible. Get more local cash as needed depending on the type of place you're in.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
My card has no foreign transaction fees and no ATM fees, which is incredible. I'm going to Australia Wednesday. My plan is to pull out $500 Australian from an ATM with my American debit card. When I fall below $100, I'll go get another $300. Pretty much just continue this cycle until my trip is almost finished. Then I try to evaluate how much cash I think I'll need and work it out so I spend the last of my Australian $$ on food/souvenirs at the airport.

I prefer to go all cash when in a foreign country. Be warned though. I've had my wallet stolen in Paris. My sister had her purse stolen on a train in Spain. My brother had his wallet stolen in Tokyo. Keep your wallet in your front pocket and be aware of your surroundings. If you end up in a crowded area, I recommend putting your hand in your pocket with your wallet. Be safe. And for the love of god, do not let your passport get stolen. Happened to me and my sister. It's a pain in the arse. Eats up half a day of your vacation and costs $100.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I would advise strongly against using a debit card in a foreign country. At an ATM yes but do not use it to purchase goods


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Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29545 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 5:09 pm to
Pablo Escobar is offering cash loans if you're worried about not having enough
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

I'll be in Colombia this weekend. Can I use my Visa debit card like normal? Is it better to get money exchanged somewhere? Prepaid debit?



If traveling to a first world country just ATM what you need and CC the rest.

If traveling to Columbia I would make sure to take a bit of cash to exchange if necessary, ATM's are not as ubiquitous as in the USA and visa may or may not be an option if you venture far outside the major cities
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I'll be in Colombia this weekend.


So...a weekend of hookers and blow, huh?
Posted by Geaux Frogs
North Richland Hills, TX
Member since May 2011
219 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:20 am to
I try not to land without local currency...just in case.

I go to my local bank before I leave and order $500 in the local currency. It is the same as making a withdrawal at an airport ATM, but no risk of your card data being skimmed, it is probably as close to the actual exchange rate as you will find anywhere, and there are no ATM fees.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33971 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 10:40 am to
I thought banks would be more and ATMs less
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8799 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:08 pm to
I find the major bank (maybe Santander) and just use my ATM to withdraw what I need.

I do not have int'l transaction fees and by going directly through the bank you typically get the interbank rate.

Visa will work in major establishments, but forget about Amex or anything else.
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 12:00 am to
Bring about a 1000 USD and I have a Debit Master Card and Visa and you should be ok. I have been to 16 countries and have not had an issue. I live in Manila and I use the Debit and Visa Card here with no issues. I have a Daily Limit on my Debit Card and the banks here have a Daily Limit but it works ok. I have been using ATM's for 17 years now.
Posted by Geaux Frogs
North Richland Hills, TX
Member since May 2011
219 posts
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:02 am to
If you use your local bank, they shouldn't charge you anything. It is your money, you are just requesting they give it to you in a different currency. I bank with Chase, and this is how I have done it every time I have traveled out of the country. It usually takes them a few days to fill the order, because most Chase branches do not have Chilean Pesos...haha.

Posted by txtiger79
Member since Oct 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 12:19 pm to
There is some pretty poor advice on this thread. Carrying large sums of cash around is generally not advised due to the theft risk. Same issue with debit cards. They don't typically offer "dollar one" theft protection like credit cards do. Also, if you rent a car or a hotel room with a debit card, they may take a large deposit/hold which ties up your cash.

Take small bills (like $1s and $5s) to pay tips when you get there as needed. Get a small amount of cash from a local ATM when you land and just get more as needed. If you have too much cash at the end, use it towards your hotel bill.

Take a credit card that has no foreign transaction fee. If it as an amex, you can ask them to send you another card with a different number. Carry it separately from the first card and leave in hotel safe. If one gets stolen, call amex and they'll deactivate it. Then use the other. If not an amex, have a second card and carry it separately even if it has a foreign currency fee. This is just a back-up. It is usually good to have at least one visa/MC as not everyone takes discover or amex.

Make a scan of front and back of all cards you are taking and also your passport. E-mail it to yourself (password protect the PDF) or give the copy to a parent or trusted friend in the U.S. That way you can easily cancel the card if stolen or prove to the embassy that you are a citizen to expedite getting a new passport.

Do some research on the country you are going to and see how their currency infrastructure is. Many countries have more sophisticated credit card technology than the U.S. That's good and bad - Australia for example uses NFC widely on their credit cards. So if you have Apple Pay etc, you are golden for literally every purchase unless you are in Uluru or some other outpost and trying to buy local artwork directly from the artisan. Apple Pay is better than a physical US-based card in Australia because US cards are "coded" to ask for a signature and Australians aren't used to that. Many places do not have (or usually need) pens at the point of sale so it slows things down if you need to sign.

In Europe, the default is generally a "chip+pin" credit card. Even if you have a US card with a chip, the default is "chip+signature" which means you can't use a credit card to buy train tickets etc from un-manned kiosks etc because your card doesn't prompt the machine to ask you for a pin. Barclays is one of the few banks that issues US cards with chip+pin.

I'm not sure what the technology is in Colombia, so do some reading up on that.

And to the poster who said Chase doesn't charge a fee to track down Chilean pesos in advance, that is false. It is embedded in the exchange rate. If you asked Chase to buy peso's or sell peso's to you on the same day, the rate would not be the same. They are not just giving you your money in a different currency. They are selling that different currency to you. Compare the rate they offer to the quoted rate on google or any forex site. It will be different. How different points to how much they are charging you. This is also true for ATMs and credit cards, but the spreads TEND to be lower than asking your US bank to track down currency for you, although they will charge you less than an airport forex kiosk etc. My dad likes to have local cash on hand before leaving for a foreign country (despite my advice) and he would get better rates from the Houston branch of his bank than the Baton Rouge branch. It all has to do with volume and which currency you are trying to get.

Lastly and most importantly, if you are using a credit card in a foreign country, make sure they charge you in their currency. Lots of places will try to run your bill in USD as a convenience for you. That defeats the purpose as you are now getting the establishment's exchange rate versus the credit card company's. I've noticed this mainly in Latin countries like Costa Rica, Mexico etc.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35561 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:54 pm to
+1 for txtiger's thorough and completely accurate post.

Anyone that thinks that their bank is simply exchanging currency without charging for it knows nothing about currency exchange.
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