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Sonos system for 5 bedroom house
Posted on 7/30/15 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 7:47 pm
Can anyone estimate cost for the Sonos system for 5-7 zones, including an outdoor patio
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Posted on 7/30/15 at 8:21 pm to djangochained
I mean, it depends on what you want to do. Play 3s are big enough for most rooms, and they're 260ish each.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 9:50 pm to Pettifogger
No offense but Sonos systems are big time wastes of money.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 10:40 pm to GFunk
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No offense but Sonos systems are big time wastes of money.
Strongly disagree. I have Sonos throughout my house and its one of the best things I've spent money on when we moved in.
Posted on 7/30/15 at 10:43 pm to GFunk
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Sonos systems are big time wastes of money.
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Posted on 7/30/15 at 10:53 pm to Joe
can you elaborate on why it's good for you? I don't know much about it.
How does it handle multiple inputs?
How does it handle multiple inputs?
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:02 pm to djangochained
I have the playbar, sub, and two 1s in my living room. I have an open floor plan so another play 1 in the kitchen. A play 3 in the family room and another play 1 upstairs in my bedroom/bathroom. I'm about to pick up another play 1 for my baby on the way's room.
I have my Xbox, cable box, and Apple TV all hooked up directly to my TV and an optical cable from the TV to the playbar. That's all the hook up there is.
If I'm watching TV and the wife is in the kitchen, I can link the tv to the speaker in the kitchen so she can watch TV without having to have it blaring from the living room. If we have guests over I can have music all over the house at a decent volume instead of blasting from one room. It hooks up to my spotify/pandora/google accounts and the local music on my phone.
We have it down at my in laws beach house and it works great there too. You can just add a song to the queue and everyone can control the music sort of like a jukebox.
Edit: it's expensive. But it sounds great (that playbar and sub are RIDICULOUS) and its wireless and incredibly easy to set up. Other that running wires everywhere, there is not a better way to put music and sound all over your house.
I have my Xbox, cable box, and Apple TV all hooked up directly to my TV and an optical cable from the TV to the playbar. That's all the hook up there is.
If I'm watching TV and the wife is in the kitchen, I can link the tv to the speaker in the kitchen so she can watch TV without having to have it blaring from the living room. If we have guests over I can have music all over the house at a decent volume instead of blasting from one room. It hooks up to my spotify/pandora/google accounts and the local music on my phone.
We have it down at my in laws beach house and it works great there too. You can just add a song to the queue and everyone can control the music sort of like a jukebox.
Edit: it's expensive. But it sounds great (that playbar and sub are RIDICULOUS) and its wireless and incredibly easy to set up. Other that running wires everywhere, there is not a better way to put music and sound all over your house.
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 7/30/15 at 11:25 pm to Joe
I have 3 play 5's, 2 play 1's and the Sonos amp that pushes 4 outdoor speakers that is connected to the TV, so I can play anything on the tv outside on the outdoor speakers(football games, music, etc). I love it and think it was a great purchase that I've been getting a lot of enjoyment out of. Would definitely recommend.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:43 am to GFunk
quote:very wrong...Sonos is completely awesome and easy to use. little kids can figure out how to play music in their preferred zone.
No offense but Sonos systems are big time wastes of money.
Is there a more user friendly music system than Sonos? I can't imagine having to control things are a receiver with a switch. awful
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 8:51 am to Chicken
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Chicken
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very wrong...Sonos is completely awesome and easy to use. little kids can figure out how to play music in their preferred zone. Is there a more user friendly music system than Sonos? I can't imagine having to control things are a receiver with a switch. awful
I live in an open floorplan, non-OT baller home. I would imagine more folks than not in my area do as well. Needing a "diferent zone" for TV in the kitchen in my home isn't a concern. I could-potentially-see the value in different bedrooms, but the trade-off in ease of use versus the prohibitive cost (and make no mistake it's a costly, costly system in comparison to the other options folks have) mean that for me it just makes no sense.
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in that, either.
However those that have a 3200 SFLA hacienda with an outdoor kitchen, an outdoor pool with poolhouse and bar...yeah I can see it. I can also see those folks being able to justify the cost, as well.
But me? It doesn't even come close to making financial sense. But YMMV.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 9:19 am to GFunk
You pay a premium for Sonos convenience, but in my experience it is not that cost prohibitive in comparison to similar quality equipment.
Further, I don't see your point about the floor plan. Our home isn't zoned out, but we have the soundbar 2 5s and a 3 and it works great for what we do. Also, for a while we were in a small 2 BR house with just one 5 that was great.
It beats the shite out of most any bluetooth speaker. Point being, they're a good investment even if you don't want to outfit your entire house, as you can add more pieces that fit in seamlessly.
Further, I don't see your point about the floor plan. Our home isn't zoned out, but we have the soundbar 2 5s and a 3 and it works great for what we do. Also, for a while we were in a small 2 BR house with just one 5 that was great.
It beats the shite out of most any bluetooth speaker. Point being, they're a good investment even if you don't want to outfit your entire house, as you can add more pieces that fit in seamlessly.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 9:39 am to Pettifogger
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You pay a premium for Sonos convenience, but in my experience it is not that cost prohibitive in comparison to similar quality equipment. Further, I don't see your point about the floor plan. Our home isn't zoned out, but we have the soundbar 2 5s and a 3 and it works great for what we do. Also, for a while we were in a small 2 BR house with just one 5 that was great. It beats the shite out of most any bluetooth speaker. Point being, they're a good investment even if you don't want to outfit your entire house, as you can add more pieces that fit in seamlessly.
A couple of things here:
1.) What do you consider, "similar quality equipment,"?
2.) What soundbar worth its salt doesn't have Bluetooth capability these days? I know my Sony does and between and my wireless Sub, it's amazing and I use Apple Music/iOS to connect to it or just tap "Listen to Bluetooth Audio" on my smart remote and use only one interface.
Regardless of how easy and seamless Sonos is, you're dealing with two UI's with either your phone OS or Music streaming service and Sonos' system, that's more complicated and less seamless than the system I use at home.
Again, I don't value zones because of the layout and size of my home. I spent $228 on my soundbar. To compare the value I get out of one-and let's even double that and put another one in a bedroom or even triple it and put it in another-the cost is <$700. The amount of speakers from Sonos and the Bridge necessary is far more expensive than the system or setup I'm describing.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:03 am to GFunk
Similar quality would probably be Bose-ish.
As far as complexity, Sonos really couldn't be easier. Sounds like you've got a setup that is easy for you, but for the average person they plug it in, press a button, download an app, and sign into a music service. It takes incredibly little effort, even less than pairing bluetooth, IMO.
IMO Sonos = Mac. It's a different, simplistic system that you can get similar results out of for less money. Both have great hardware, both take little effort and rarely need tuning up. I'll even admit that you can get better quality for the same money, but you'll need to do a little research and put in a little more effort on the front end and in maintenance. For most people that will come off as "more difficult."
I may graduate from Sonos at some point, but it's pretty easy to see why so many people find it as a solution to a home audio question.
As far as complexity, Sonos really couldn't be easier. Sounds like you've got a setup that is easy for you, but for the average person they plug it in, press a button, download an app, and sign into a music service. It takes incredibly little effort, even less than pairing bluetooth, IMO.
IMO Sonos = Mac. It's a different, simplistic system that you can get similar results out of for less money. Both have great hardware, both take little effort and rarely need tuning up. I'll even admit that you can get better quality for the same money, but you'll need to do a little research and put in a little more effort on the front end and in maintenance. For most people that will come off as "more difficult."
I may graduate from Sonos at some point, but it's pretty easy to see why so many people find it as a solution to a home audio question.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 10:20 am to Pettifogger
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Pettifogger
Great discussion and I appreciate the perspective from the folks that do own them. I'll stick with my original point, which is that they're really cost prohibitive which makes them less than ideal for a large segment of folks. Whether that's because they haven't scaled sales-wise to reach a point of profitability as a company that they can compete from a price point perspective I'm not sure.
Could it be they're interested less in being ubiquitous and indispensable as a home audio option and more focused on building a brand as a luxury item? Again I'm not sure.
But let's talk about my setup versus replicating it in multiple rooms versus a Sonos setup, strictly from a price perspective.
Sony Soundbar + Wireless Sub ( Sony HT-CT770 2.1 Channel 330W Sound Bar with Wireless Subwoofer) - $228 x's 3 = $684 total
Sonos Playbar + Sonos Wireless Subwoofer ( Sonos Playbar + Sonos Wireless Subwoofer/Wireless Music Streaming Speaker ) - $1,339.95 x's 3 = $4,019.85
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Sonos Connect Wireless Receiver Component for Wireless Streaming ( Sonos Bridge ) - $349.00
$4,019.85 + $349.00 = $4,368.85 for 3 zones or rooms of wireless streaming.
$684 vs. $4,368.85.
I simply can't justify spending $3,714.85 more than the setup I'm theorizing with the Sony Soundbar and Wireless Sub.
There is no amount of ease of use, simplicity, innovation, or sound quality upgrade that I'll receive from going with the 2nd option in comparison to the first that justifies that expense for me. From my perspective, the staggering difference in price simply can't be reconciled in my mind. I could do so much other stuff with that $3,700+ that it's difficult for me to even entertain another perspective.
ETA: The OP was originally discussing a 5 BR house. I used an example of only 3 BR's. But understand for each additional BR, the price disparity jumps up over $1,000 per BR.
A 5BR Sonos Setup of Playbar + Wireless Sub along with 1 Bridge = $7,048.25
A 5BR Sony Soundbar + Wireless Subwoofer w/no Bridge = $1,140.
The difference in cost is $5,908.25. Even if you're affluent...Is what Sonos provides in this example worth SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS? I just can't see it.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 10:28 am
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:31 am to GFunk
I agree it'll outpace your setup in cost, but I don't think what you're pricing is what most people are doing/would need/would want.
The people I know with a Sonos setup, including myself, have PLAY speakers and a soundbar. I don't know anyone who has the sub. I certainly don't know anyone who has multiple playbars and multiple subs.
A more realistic whole home setup for most people, I think, would involve a soundbar, sub and 2 PLAY 1 speakers for home theater and living room audio. Then a series of either Play 3s and 5s for remaining rooms. Such a setup would please anyone but audiophiles, and would be plenty for all but the most massive and cavernous homes.
I'm sure that would still come in more than your setup, but a Play 3 will provide excellent sound for a bedroom at about 260 dollars. A Play 5 can truly fill up a large living area for 400 bucks, as would a playbar. So on that type of setup, which is the prototypical setup, you're going to shave a few grand off of your estimates.
Moreover, depending on where your audio is coming from, you probably won't need a Sonos Connect or bridge at all.
Anyway, for the 5BR setup I would anticipate it'd look more like 2500-3000 for the Sonos setup. So sure, still doubling yours, but not as massive of a difference.
The people I know with a Sonos setup, including myself, have PLAY speakers and a soundbar. I don't know anyone who has the sub. I certainly don't know anyone who has multiple playbars and multiple subs.
A more realistic whole home setup for most people, I think, would involve a soundbar, sub and 2 PLAY 1 speakers for home theater and living room audio. Then a series of either Play 3s and 5s for remaining rooms. Such a setup would please anyone but audiophiles, and would be plenty for all but the most massive and cavernous homes.
I'm sure that would still come in more than your setup, but a Play 3 will provide excellent sound for a bedroom at about 260 dollars. A Play 5 can truly fill up a large living area for 400 bucks, as would a playbar. So on that type of setup, which is the prototypical setup, you're going to shave a few grand off of your estimates.
Moreover, depending on where your audio is coming from, you probably won't need a Sonos Connect or bridge at all.
Anyway, for the 5BR setup I would anticipate it'd look more like 2500-3000 for the Sonos setup. So sure, still doubling yours, but not as massive of a difference.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:58 pm to Pettifogger
If you have existing speakers, you can pick up the older versions of the Sonos Connect and Sonos Connect Amp for about half the price of the new stuff. That is what I did for my house.
I have extensively talked about my simplistic system before if you care to search.
2 Sonos Connect Amps (ZP 100s), 1 Sonos Connect (ZP 80) and 1 Sonos Play 1. May be the easiest sound system to use on the market.
I have extensively talked about my simplistic system before if you care to search.
2 Sonos Connect Amps (ZP 100s), 1 Sonos Connect (ZP 80) and 1 Sonos Play 1. May be the easiest sound system to use on the market.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 9:11 pm to Pettifogger
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. I don't know anyone who has the sub.
I do! Turned it all the way up while watching black hawk down and thought a helicopter was landing on the roof. The recessed lighting in the ceiling were shaking.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 9:19 pm to Joe
Good lord. If someone sees Sonos as cost prohibitive I don't even know where to begin. Sonos is as entry level multi zone audio as it gets. It's a great little product that allows someone to build a system as they can afford it and it can be taken to the next house.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 11:03 pm to GFunk
Thank you GFunk! There's other options out there, but the people at Sonos are marketing geniuses. If you want to pay top price for brand recognition that is good also.
Posted on 8/1/15 at 6:10 pm to VABuckeye
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VABuckeye
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Good lord. If someone sees Sonos as cost prohibitive I don't even know where to begin. Sonos is as entry level multi zone audio as it gets. It's a great little product that allows someone to build a system as they can afford it and it can be taken to the next house.
So five soundbars and subwoofers with a wireless bridge cost $7K. That was the OP's original suggestion (5BR setup). The response was to actually not compare a soundbar/sub to soundbar/sub but to subtract the sub out to compare.
The reality is paying more than $7,000 for a 5BR setup is cost prohibitive. For many people. Median household income per the Census from 2009-2013 is $44K in Louisiana and $53K nationally.
You telling me that a cost of zone audio that represents almost 16%/23% of that median household income doesn't DEFINE cost prohibitive for both the average Louisianan and American? Heck, doubling those income amounts still represents a massive investment of income-we aren't even talking disposable-towards home audio.
Your comment is laughable and represents to me that you may be fairly out of touch with discretionary income realities for many people.
In short, you need to post on the OT more often. You seem to be a Baller.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 6:14 pm
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